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Old 10-09-2008, 11:01 PM   #1
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Default Did the US drop a nuke near Basra???
I did not know where to put this....so i thought that politics would be ok...

I am just relaying this story, and a piece of information relayed in relation to it:

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English...3.0.2557396307

Iraq: US dropped nuclear bomb near Basra in 1991, claims veteran


Rome, 8 Oct. (AKI) - An American veteran of the first Gulf War in Iraq claims that the United States dropped a five-kilotonne nuclear bomb in 1991 in a deserted area outside the southern city of Basra on the Iranian border.

The claim by US war veteran Jim Brown was made during an interview included in a 30-minute current affairs report to be broadcast by Italian state news channel RaiNews24 on Thursday.

Brown told the Italian news channel that the bombing took place on the last day of the war in Iraq on 27 February 1991.

RaiNews24 claims to have conducted its own inquiry and found that a seismic event took place on that day equal to a five-kilotonne blast.

The network cited the online archives of the International Seismological Center, a non-profit UK-based organisation, as confirmation of its research.

The Italian journalist in charge of the inquiry Maurizio Torrealta told Adnkronos International (AKI) that there is no definitive proof of the nuclear blast and that it should not be taken as a fact.

Instead he asked the international community to further investigate the claims by Brown.

"We are asking journalists and the international community for help, in order to clarify this," said Torrealta.

However, in the documentary, which was shown to the media on Wednesday, Torrealta said that one of the possible reasons that the US may have dropped the bomb, was in retribution for the launch of Scud missiles on the US Dhahran military base in Saudi Arabia on 25 February.

Twenty-eight American soldiers died in the attack.

The US veteran, Jim Brown was not present during the alleged launch of the bomb and it is not clear how he obtained the information.

RaiNews24 said that 45-year-old Brown was originally a fourth-level engineer in the US Army and was demoted to third-level after health problems, following a vaccination against chemical weapons.

The injection deteriorated his health and he was eventually discharged from the army with honour.

He is now director of the GulfWatch I.N.S. organisation. Its website claims to have 350 supporters who are or were involved in coalition intelligence during the 1991 Gulf War.

"These people have agreed to work together to make sure that as much information about the war as possible is released about the activities prior to, during and after the war that have affected the health of potentially hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and their spouses and children," said a statement on the website.

The documentary included an interview with an Iraqi doctor, Jawad al-Ali, who told RaiNews24 that before the beginning of the first Gulf War in 1989 there were 32 cases of tumours, while in 2002 the number had risen to 600 in the Basra area.

Al-Ali also told RaiNews24 that tumours that used to affect older citizens had started to impact younger children. He then showed alleged photos of the tumours in the documentary.

During the RaiNews24 report , Torrealta said that the US State Department had rejected Brown's claims and said only 'conventional' weapons had been used during the first Gulf War.
MOAB was not in use at the time. At least, not officially. Perhaps testing or something. It gives off the mushroom cloud, and is in the 5-10 kiloton range. So perhaps there was a mistake made, and it was a MOAB type bomb.

Regardless, the following is a piece of information relayed by an individual. No, i have not checked them for validity...i just give you this unfiltered:

In 1991 I personally witnessed and took part in loading low yield tactical nuclear weapons on several occasions on F-15 Strike Eagle aircraft deployed to Incirlik Air Force Base from Tyndall AFB, Florida ,Southern Air Identification Defense Squadron. These aircraft were launched with the devices on the rack and with one exception returned to the base with the munition still hung. These aircraft were making security patrols in order to enforce the no-fly zone in Iraq.
These munitions do not fall off the bomb racks(accidentally). When an aircraft loaded with munitions returns to base empty,in laymans terms, the bombs were dropped.
I do not know destination or mission of the pilot of the F-15, but I do know that the bomb rack with the nuclear device was empty when he returned.
I witnessed these things with my own eyes. By relaying this story I have most definitly defied my NDA with the USAF. What do you guys think? Especially in how it relates to the mysterious "Gulf War Syndrome"?
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:03 PM   #2
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Didn't know where to put it?

How about where this kind of BS belongs.

In the Conspiracy Section.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:23 PM   #3
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Didn't know where to put it?

How about where this kind of BS belongs.

In the Conspiracy Section.
ahhh...there we go. Perhaps someone will move it for me?

Until then....what are your thoughts (besides that it is BS).

I think it is BS, too....but will withold my reasoning until i hear from some others with military background.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:49 AM   #4
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ahhh...there we go. Perhaps someone will move it for me?

Until then....what are your thoughts (besides that it is BS).

I think it is BS, too....but will withold my reasoning until i hear from some others with military background.
Sorry, but the only rational thoughts about this is - BS!!! (regardless of whether you want to hear it or not.)
First of all our military isn't that stupid. If they were to be willing to take the pansy liberal world reaction to doing it, they might as well drop it square up thier @sses. Only a fool would even consider this could have happened and not be known about.

P.S. - Wanna see pics of the Bigfoot me 'n muh Cousin shot in Tennessee last deer season???
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:52 AM   #5
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Sorry, but the only rational thoughts about this is - BS!!! (regardless of whether you want to hear it or not.)
First of all our military isn't that stupid. If they were to be willing to take the pansy liberal world reaction to doing it, they might as well drop it square up thier @sses. Only a fool would even consider this could have happened and not be known about.

P.S. - Wanna see pics of the Bigfoot me 'n muh Cousin shot in Tennessee last deer season???
Sure.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:53 AM   #6
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Sorry, but the only rational thoughts about this is - BS!!! (regardless of whether you want to hear it or not.)
First of all our military isn't that stupid. If they were to be willing to take the pansy liberal world reaction to doing it, they might as well drop it square up thier @sses. Only a fool would even consider this could have happened and not be known about.

P.S. - Wanna see pics of the Bigfoot me 'n muh Cousin shot in Tennessee last deer season???
Like i said...i have my own reasons for not believing the story. But it is a story being run, nonetheless.

Is our military that stupid? On the whole? No. In isolated instances? Certainly. Look at Wesley Clark.

Regarding that bigfoot....do you have him stored in a freezer?
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:03 AM   #7
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..do you have him stored in a freezer?
Well, since he was black, 6'8'', and about 400lbs. we decided we would just take the Titans jersey he had on for a souvenir, and leave the body in the forest where we shot him. We high-tailed it outta there 'fore a Ranger or a Coach showed up!
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:05 AM   #8
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I shot a Bigfoot once. Flattened the front tire.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:09 AM   #9
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Gotta go with BS. There's so much seismic technology located around the globe that they can tell when someone sets off a nuke underground. The radioactive fallout from one exploded above ground can't be hidden from the rest of the world and someone would have reported it at the time it happened.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:41 AM   #10
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Seriously BFFT, is this from Scrappleface?

It's so completely rediculous it has to be.
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