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Old 04-03-2008, 08:24 PM   #1
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Default Could active camo actually be in use now?
I didn't want to post this in a public forum, since there is Arabic text on the screen, and foreign music playing, but I wanted to get some impressions none the less.

I have heard military technology is between 10 and 20 years ahead of anything we know about right now, which makes this video seem more plausible. The majority of this video has nothing to do with this topic, and I'm thinking of cuting it down and re-uploading it, but I will worry about that later. The real beef takes place from 2:59-3:10. What you see appears to be an unarmed soldier wearing active camo run up to a tank, "de-cloak," and jump in. So what are you thoughts? New technology? Video artifacts? Hoax? Personally, I don't know what to think. I want it to be real, but the technology seems so far fetched. Then again, in the 80's, so did stealth, and yet, the F-117 was flying.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nAbRm45SX38
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:10 AM   #2
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Very cool, but do you think we're there yet?

Here's an article from 2002, here we are 6 years later!! crazy huh!

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...my-uniform.htm
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:27 AM   #3
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There was a documentry on not long ago on either Discover
or History Channel (forget which) about this very thing. It
was about weapons of the future. Very cool-er-est stuff.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:29 AM   #4
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I didn't want to post this in a public forum, since there is Arabic text on the screen, and foreign music playing, but I wanted to get some impressions none the less.

I have heard military technology is between 10 and 20 years ahead of anything we know about right now, which makes this video seem more plausible. The majority of this video has nothing to do with this topic, and I'm thinking of cuting it down and re-uploading it, but I will worry about that later. The real beef takes place from 2:59-3:10. What you see appears to be an unarmed soldier wearing active camo run up to a tank, "de-cloak," and jump in. So what are you thoughts? New technology? Video artifacts? Hoax? Personally, I don't know what to think. I want it to be real, but the technology seems so far fetched. Then again, in the 80's, so did stealth, and yet, the F-117 was flying.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nAbRm45SX38
I saw this video the other day, and it is very intriguing. I have heard that active camo is in use now. It isn't the cloaking that i discussed in the other thread. It is something else. I think i know what it is, but i am not positive. I am waiting on a reply from someone who doesn't always have time to reply to me. If it is what i think it is, it is basically using increased ranges of EM energy to activate various chemical compounds inside multiple layers of nested "bubbles". The outside absorbe visible light, the next layer in absorbe infrared, the next layer in radio/EM, so on and so forth.

You would be amazed at how mundane some of our most "advanced technology" can actually sound when you analyze it. That is not always so.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:44 AM   #5
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Seeing that tank get hit just ticks me off.

As for the camo, it's really hard to tell if it's real or fake, but if it's real, I'm happy to know that we're the ones that are using it.
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:18 PM   #6
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The outside absorbe visible light, the next layer in absorbe infrared, the next layer in radio/EM, so on and so forth.
I'm curious, if the material simply absorbs the light, wouldn't that mean the object just appeard as an unnatural flat black? It could just be my misunderstand the physics of light though. *shrugs*
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:08 PM   #7
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Looks more like a video effect to me. This is a very low res camera and something moving FAST isn't going to change the image receptors that much. You can see similar blurring during the mine explosion. And the digital camo gear that BDUs now use is designed for that exact effect.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:30 AM   #8
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I translated the Arabic. It says young child in basement playing with fancy video game fools American suckers.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:52 AM   #9
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I'm curious, if the material simply absorbs the light, wouldn't that mean the object just appeard as an unnatural flat black? It could just be my misunderstand the physics of light though. *shrugs*
No, you don't misunderstand the physics of light at all. Just the physics of the device.

It isn't a black hole. It doesn't reach out and "grab" other photons to absorb. It only absorbs that which would be reflected from it, and this reflected light is what makes an object "seen".

If you absorb the light that would be reflected you create more of a blur (which is what is seen here). It doesn't make it black, it makes it blurry. This is because it isn't absorbing all light, and what we end up seeing is akin to a scattered array of photons. The technology will not allow for the absorption of all light simultaneously. To absorb the various energies you must have a material that will actually affect a very narrow range of light frequencies.

The real difficulty is in how you manage to "nest" the absorbing material so that you may better take advantage of the properties of your "stealthy" materials beyond just a narrow band of the light spectrum. This is one of the the "top secret" aspects of the stealth paint. Using the same technology on clothing is not really too far fetched.
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Old 04-06-2008, 03:02 PM   #10
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I saw this video the other day, and it is very intriguing. I have heard that active camo is in use now. It isn't the cloaking that i discussed in the other thread. It is something else. I think i know what it is, but i am not positive. I am waiting on a reply from someone who doesn't always have time to reply to me. If it is what i think it is, it is basically using increased ranges of EM energy to activate various chemical compounds inside multiple layers of nested "bubbles". The outside absorbe visible light, the next layer in absorbe infrared, the next layer in radio/EM, so on and so forth.

You would be amazed at how mundane some of our most "advanced technology" can actually sound when you analyze it. That is not always so.
BFFT, I do find this fascinating. It would be really cool if it is true, but would it be something that could be used on a large scale, such as Aircraft carriers or large planes?
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:37 PM   #11
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BFFT, I do find this fascinating. It would be really cool if it is true, but would it be something that could be used on a large scale, such as Aircraft carriers or large planes?
If you believe the DARPA type stuff, then yes. The story goes that the whole Star Wars program that Reagan pushed for was actually put in place and covered with a similar type of stealth technology. Is this true? I have no idea....but the story gets wierder than that.

A nanoscientist that i associate with (he could be called a "Power that be" in the nano industry, having worked on several classified projects) states that nanotech originated in space, with material that was found there by scientists during the run up to the apollo mission. So, who put it there? Did it "grow" naturally, as a silicone based life form, or was it engineered? He mentioned it in the same paragraph as cloaking and holography, which makes me wonder about the sky we see at night, to be honest.

I know that sounds kind of kooky, but keep in mind they used to have hours of quarantine upon landing the space shuttle. If space is believed to be sterile due to the radiation, or anaerobic environment, whatever....why the need for quarantine?

I wonder if there is a story there? I need to research the quarantine steps for the space shuttle a little better.
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