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okay, the thread is still here http://www.myopenforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7820
in a forum of "National Buzz" threads you can find here http://www.myopenforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=42 but a lot of these threads are old and out of order whats up slusher? |
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you must have forgotten that there was a massive amount of structure coming down on top of the area where the collapse initatied at the floors damaged by the planes. This mass would have acted as a battering ram, pulverizing anything in its path. Add to that the many, if not all interior columns outside of the impacted floors would have been rotated outward as the floors they were attached to pancaked, as these connections throughout most of the buliding were not damaged by the collisoin or fire and would have remained intact but were never desinged to act as a cantilever.
The floors were not designed to cantilever... but the structure was... it would have supported itself in order to become a battering ram that would create energy required to disentigrate the building it would need more than mass.. it would need momentum...speed the top should have bounced off the lower part of the building in at least one case... the building disentegrated along with the people and the office furniture... nothing was found that was inside the building that couldn't fit in a shoebox... all seen in controlled demolition do you know how much energy is required to pulverize concrete... it happened instantaniously other buildings imploded and yes some of them fell intact to the side... there was one in Noth Dakota or South Dakota late last year http://www.implosionworld.com/history2.htm taller when it was built.... come on man largest metropolitin area.... are you really arguing this? a smaller plane...yes a 707 what is that 5% smaller but it was the largest plane of the day it was built!!... 707 probably heavier? Failure is never an option but this building was different than anything built in that time and that is my point????????????? Beams expanding?...sure... but you also have to figure in the thickness of the steel and the amount of heat required to fully penetrate the mass... no and if they expanded they wouldnt expand that much... the box structure would help them maintain shape... not like an I-beam type column NIST could have tested a similar column but the did not.... they simply tested to see what kind of temps could be reached in office fire...they didn't even mention sustainability of heat. Explain the projectile motion of the debris and the pyroclastic flow through the streets and over buildings out into the river..... this requires a massive amount of heat and explosive force |
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You said 1-16-06 4:25 pm that an explosive which sounds like "hermalight" may have been used. (thread: Roxdox Debunked) My question to you was, in your opinion, in descending order, who do you think planted these explosives there? hermalite?..not me... I said Thermite Cheney Bush Rumsfeld Wolfowitz Rove Silverstein Head of CIA, FBI, NSA and FEMA for sure Anyone at Controlled Demolitions, Inc. of Spring, Texas (involved in Waco, and Oklahoma City) possibly Gulliani and Powell and Rice.... think they were out of the loop Clinton and Daddy Bush Trilateral Commission and some on UN could have planted explosives with less than 100 guys in 2 days... half of which were probably provided by Controlled demolitions who have all gotten rich off these operations and are as vested as anyone above |
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we created them.... we funded them.... we supplied them..... we trained them... they were an asset against Russia in the cold war... after that they were just an asset to protect out economic interests in the area
The Bin Ladens funded Georges First business which was a disaster but he still made a fortune.... and now the Bin Ladens construction companies all make a fortune every time we bomb someone and they get the contracts to rebuild.... Osama was estranged from his family because he refused to go along with the war profiteering... he saw no benefit of destroying the world for money... he carries weapons to protect himself.... if he attacks he does so to prove a point about capitalism and its offshoots like slavery. He had nothing to do with 9/11 |
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The plan was set to go to war prior to 9/11.... troops were in place in Gulf of Oman.....
Saddam was the main target but we needed a war on terrorism to justify it... we needed an attack on our homeland to fuse the American people and gain full support and to up recruitment. We wanted to remove Saddam because he was pumping too much oil and flooding the market... keeping the price down.... how much was gas before the war? $1.35 max here... now $2.40... we have more control over the gas supply... less oil ..allegidly...and less refineries up the profit ratio and you see record profits in oil industry... hell now the oil companies can steal oil from Iraq and then tell people we have even less oil than before... 10 billion in profits in one quarter.... thats 40 billion a year.... and the government ain't hurting either from the higher prices... ten times that of oil companies profit goes to gas taxes... Higher prices = more taxes |
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I think the planes were actually switched out... plenty of time once the transponders were switched off... planes were only 20% full on a day when the planes should have been 80% full.... have you heard any of the family members putting up a stink.... NO!
you fill the planes with governement workers and switch out the planes... crash replacement planes remotely which can be done and then land the original plane .... all planes were coming down... sort them out later.. mass confusion. Planes can be remotely controlled and that is pretty much how they fly now... points are programmed into flight itenerary and pilot only needs to land and take-off Planes could have actually been air force refueling planes... they are right now regular boeing planes that have been retrofit to carry fuel tanks right after 9/11 government signed 20 billion dolllar lease contract with Boeing for more planes to be used for tankers.... twice as much than buying them outright... plus we had to pay 3 million extra for each plane to retrofit them with tanks...then when the lease is up another 3 mil to convert them back Have you ever heard of cell phones working on planes? http://www.physics911.net/projectachilles.htm |
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%%%EXPERIMENTAL %%%
To The Honorarable Mayor Canon and City Council This vacuum that DonkaDonk keeps talking about, how about enclosing these buildings in something like plastic/ tyvek/vynil canvas/rubber or equivalent, then pumping out the air? Maybe we can crush those building this way!!!! What say you Mayor Canon/City Council/MDC? |
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Have you ever heard of cell phones working on planes? The government can rig servos & telemetry to 4 airplanes for remote control, but pull an oops on the cell-phone thing? It’s a movie myth that airplanes fly themselves and anyone with the courage can take the place of the food-poisoned pilot & be talked down by flight control. |
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As per the Boeing website.
http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/...n_manuals.html Wt of 707 = roughly 155,000 lbs Wt of 767 = roughly 176,000 lbs. These are base empty weights not counting fuel or passengers. Percentages or no 21,000 lbs is a big difference. |
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just think about what MIT does and where its graduates go.... MIT research leads directly to defense contractors as do its professors and where do you think the funding for all its programs comes from? our government and the associated contractors...
MIT, Yale, Stanford... top three in this category.... and also top three in respected opinion... good combo... don't you think |
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roxdog ![]() Since no one here had the balls to come on my show, I was forced to interview an MIT-trained engineer about 9/11 and he says the only rational explanation for the collapse of the WTC is controlled demolition. Be sure to tune in tomorrow night at 8pm Central. The evidence is conclusive!!!! www.revereradionetwork.com ![]() |
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