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Old 02-23-2006, 07:00 AM   #1
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Default Discussing Jeffrey Archer's works
Topic started by *rak* (@ an7.emirates.net.ae) on Wed Jun 25 04:37:04 .


Iam a die hard fan of his.
I just wanna find out which of his books do you people find the most interesting. To discuss some of his stories... share ideas on how the climax should have been better etc... anyone??
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:00 AM   #2
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Hi. I have only recently discovered Jeffery Archer through his prison diary VI and immediatley went to the store and brought The fourth Estate, Sons of fortune, Not a Penny more not a penny less, Shall we tell the president, Hounour amoung theives, As the crow flies, Kane and Abel, A quiver full of arrows and The prodical daughter!!

His work is great. I have only read his prison dairy, the fourth estate, sons of fortune and Kane and Abel (I was going for Abel!)
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:00 AM   #3
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There is also anothet short story collection called, 'A Twist in the Tale'.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:00 AM   #4
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Most of Archers novels are politics based.Ofcourse,doing justice to the politition in Himself.The best one is 'Kane & Abel' ofcourse.'Eleventh Commandmend' and 'Fourth Protocol' are good.so is 'Shall We....'.'Sons of Fortune' resembles a cliche pattern followed in bollywood movies.'Prodigal daughter' and 'first among equals' lack the thrill,the 1st is a cliche and the second is just politics,something like the author narrating history.Ofcourse,no arguement to the fact that he is one of the biggest frauds in the history.heard that he will have to return his peer-hood.
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Old 05-29-2006, 07:00 AM   #5
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I have a question? What is the "fourth Estate" in his book the Fourth Estate. I want to read it but haven't had the chance yet. What is the significance of the title the Fourth Estate?
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Old 05-27-2006, 07:00 AM   #6
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http://www.iomx.com/online_ebooks.htm
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:00 AM   #7
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Old 02-02-2006, 07:00 AM   #8
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hello
i know its stupid of me to ask this but in sons of fortune which one of the twin becomes the governor??
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:00 AM   #9
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Hi folks, I now consider myself to be a massive Jeffery Archer fan after reading the eleventh commandment i then read sons of fortune, not a penny more, not a penny less, shall we tell the president, Kane and abel, A matter of honour and tonight i will begin The fouth estate (can anyone tell me how good it is)Also can anyone tell me if his short stories are any good

re which twin ends up as govenor?

this is a good question and my answer would be fletcher. we know that the mayor is standing between them "When he came to a halt in the center of the stage, the candates took there places on each side of him, Fletcher on his left, Nat on his right, as befitted their political persuasion." And in the last paragraph we are told "The mayor picked up the coin and turned round to face the candidates. He smiled at the man now standing on his right, and said, "may i be first to congratulte you governor."" As it is clearly stated that the mayor picks up the coin then TURNS to face them with the new governor NOW standing to his right. Does anyone know if this toss of a coin rule really apply
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Old 01-23-2006, 07:00 AM   #10
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I want to shed a little bit more light on which twin becomes governor. I remember reading a passage in the book where there was another coin toss but I can't place exactly where it is (perhaps in the section on deciding who goes first in one of the debates earlier in the book) and one of the characters (can't remember which one) said the coin toss was a mute point because he always calls "heads" and it would have had the same result no matter who went first... i think if I can find that passage again, it might help confirm who became governor.
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:00 AM   #11
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Fletcher won. Leslie, the coin toss you refer to is on page 320 in the paperback.
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Old 06-12-2006, 07:00 AM   #12
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Hi Everybody,

Just now i've gone thru the 11th commandments and i've a doubt.
Why the author (archer) have killed Chris Jackson in ? The mafia group can obtain so many people to be substituted instead of connor fitzerald,no ? i's really shocked to read that jackson was hanged in some silly retrospection that connor have saved his life during the vietnam war...Can anybody clarify me ?

bye..bye..
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Old 05-26-2006, 07:00 AM   #13
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I found Kane and Abel the best. As the crow flies was also equally inspiring.Really a gifted writer.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:00 AM   #14
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i'm a real fan of jeffrey archer after having read eleventh commandment... after that i read kane and abel and then prodigal daughter.a twist in the tale is just truly amazing...
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:00 AM   #15
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OMG, thanks for clearing up the sons of fortune thing, i wanted Nat to win. I always liked him better.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:00 AM   #16
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I read "Kane and Abel" and listened to the recorded tape by Barbara Rosenblat of " The prodigal daughter".
Although I enjoyed both, I found them both too
predictable and only Abel was shown (at first) as an interesting character.
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Old 01-26-2006, 07:00 AM   #17
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more entreprising are the short story collections
my favourite is 'the first miracle"
you just cant be creative like that
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Old 03-17-2006, 07:00 AM   #18
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I was stumped with the winner thing. For a while i was really glad that i didnt know who won, just becasue i fell in love with both the characters... but secretly nat was my favorite...
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:00 AM   #19
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Right - now that I knew which debate it was easy to find. Top of chapter 31, which is page 285:

"Heads or tails?" asked the moderator.
"Tails," said Barbara Hunter.
"Tails it is," said the moderator. He looked across at Mrs. Hunter and nodded. Fletcher couldn't complain, because he would have called heads - he always did...

I also agree that this is one of Archer's weaker works. For heaven's sake - he used the coin flip to decide an election in First Among Equals which was a much better work. I was most dissapointed.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:00 AM   #20
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I like his short stories best: "A quiver full of arrows", "A twist in the tale", "Twelve Red Herrings" and "To cut a long story short" all have very good stories. My personal favorite is "Old Love" from the first book.
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