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HonjUopu 04-04-2006 07:00 AM

Why don't you actually backup your random claims with actual evidence(non-extremist articles, etc.) instead of blabbering and posting your ignorance.

OpVJokl8 04-08-2006 07:00 AM

Solomon, thank you for proving the extremists(FSG and Idiappam) wrong. Unfortunately, Surya and I have been doing this for a while...but they will never stop adn they will continue to make their idiotic claims. Anyway, your contributions are greatly appreciated and i hope you make similar types of contributions in the history forum. You are one of the few knowledgeable hubbers in this forum who is not influenced by fools.

HassFks 04-10-2006 07:00 AM

Breaking of words, and finding meanings to spread hates is not a new job, Bible Old Testament' Genesis, dated to 300BCE, uses it, once to Praise- Jacob and aother to hate, similarly for words Betheba , edom etc., and these False Techniques called by Biblical Scholars as Etymoligical Myths to date the book to its date and also its foolishness.

For others I take COMPUTER again- COmputer Processes Datas fed- i.e., Kanithal of Puguthiya Tharavugal = KA+ Pu+thar = Computer
sounds interesting to hear, but when we realise the entire thing is foolish.

Now if U say- A came form B , you need to prove When ? How? Why? and Prove it.
The same words take different meanings over period of time; e.g. * Edited *

Now You need to Prove Your Jibbs were correct with how and when with appropriate Periodic reference and for even amatures your above roots given were meaningless and unwanted waste of time. Agains when we Translate a new word, we try an equivalent- Example- Parliament as Paralumandram, we all know Par means World and even Nadalu is wrong rather Makkal Prethinithigal sabai is ideal, but Dubbing of words is always practiced and hence it is much more easy, for People with hobby of Cross word Puzzle and breaking words to manipulate anything.
Idiayappam- Sanskrit was said as Mother of Greek and LAtin, which by European pride, made Maxmuller 50 years research to call it Elder Sister.
MOsesMohammedSolomon

GreesyBeeva 04-20-2006 07:00 AM

By calling us as extremists you call yourself as extremists with one point agenda -Manuvadis. Readers will note that who gives falses and who gives originals.

In all your mentor postings you observe tamil presence. That is enough We have got half victory.

You pat / praise yourself for your sinister look of history.

Time will prove who are real Indian aborigines / foremost civilized people.

"Adakkam Amararul Uyikkum." is valluvam. Do not dance much. 8)

f.s.gandhi

sposteTipsKage 04-27-2006 07:00 AM

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F.S.G,
Bangalore is the anglized version for 'Bendakalooru'meaning the place of Baked grains.Plz don't take your "Tamil is the origin of every darned thing on this earth" to the extremes.
Thank you Cinefan! I knew they didnt teach me wrong at school in Bangalore!!!

Like most towns before founding, the place was a forest! Why would anyone go and name a spot in the forest, just because it was a little cooler? And what, Bangalore is the coolest spot in the whole, wide world?

Here's a little history lesson from the Hindu

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mp/200...2500270200.htm

tooratrack 04-30-2006 07:00 AM

Bangalow is from Tamil ‘Venkalavu’ which means ‘a place of No heat, usually a top place’

Venka + u = Venka - Venkaatha is negative word for venkam. U – suttu oli. Venkam means ‘heat’ that is ‘veppam’

Readers can observe This ‘Va’ is turning ‘Ba’ when you go from south to north of India just like ‘Vali’ is turned as ‘bali’ in Ramayana since no alphabet for ‘Va’ in north Indian languages.

Bangalore was called ‘Venkaaloor” previously which is somewhat height in location and low in heat.

Venkaa Idam = venkidam = Thirupathi mountain which is also low in heat.

Hence if a house has upstairs it is called Bangalow.

Take phrases of Latin origin in English. i.e., & e.g - That is & For example

The expansion will be id est & exempli gratia.

Compare the words with tamil. Athavathu – adavadu

Id –ad , ‘s’ is due to pronounciation difference. et - vad

‘Esaivul kaattaka’ – rhymes with exempli gratia which means for example.

Esai – esaivul means ‘similar’ and kaattaka means example.

Tamil business with Greece were proved through tamil coins presence there.

Likewise if we take up the extinct Latin and Greek we will find tamil presence.

'Amuk' or 'Amok' might be from Tamil 'Amukkam' which means pressurized and thus someone run like a mad with fury.

f.s.gandhi

Farson 05-05-2006 07:00 AM

Q: do you plan to come up with the etymology of "duh" next? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...n_rolleyes.gif

Stainditnew 05-22-2006 07:00 AM

Queri,
Don't u think it is time to chage to the title to ' In-depth Etymology' rather than 'Armatuer Etymology' http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../icon_wink.gif

SQiTmhuY 05-27-2006 07:00 AM

Seems like a thread for Poindexter's don't you think? :P

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Vkowefek 06-06-2006 07:00 AM

We have put enough evidences. Visit and go through our postings.

Effofqueeno 06-23-2006 07:00 AM

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So does Dexter of Dexter's Lab fame owe his name to this word? Interesting!! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif
I was about to ask the same question right after reading Q's post.
Luckily, Badri beat me to it. Otherwise, I would have been duh-ed! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif

AlexanderDrew 06-26-2006 07:00 AM

Amateur Etymology
 
Inspired by our hubber F.S. Ghandi i would like to start a thread on word origins (Etymology) anyone is welcome to contribute...I am specially interested in phrases and slang use:

Bizarre
was borrowed into English from French meaning handsome or brave, which in turn took the word from the Italian bizarro, meaning angry. When it jumped the channel, it shifted radically in meaning to its current sense. It first appears in English in 1648.

tpdirorg 06-30-2006 07:00 AM

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soprofaxelbis 07-15-2006 07:00 AM

S.O.S. - S.O.S. does not stand for Save Our Souls, Save Our Ship, Stop Other Signals, Sure Of Sinking, or any other phrase.

S.O.S. was chosen as the universal distress signal by the International Radio Telegraph Convention of July 1908 because this combination of three dots followed by three dashes followed by three dots (...---...), was easy to send and easily recognized, especially since they were usually sent as a nine-character signal, which stood out against the background of three-character Morse Code letters. The letters themselves are meaningless.

The first recorded mention of the false acronymic origin is in reference to the Titanic sinking of 1912, which may account for its wide spread and endurance

Vemnagelignc 08-04-2006 07:00 AM

We have moths September- December, and they mean as follows

September- Seven- root from Sanskrit - Saptami
October- Eight - " " - Oshtami
November Nine " " -Novamy
December Ten " " " -Dasami
AS TWO Kings names July(ius Caeser) and August(us Caeser) name included the months went back, but the names remained same and entire world calls them wrongly
MosesMohammedSolomon

Lauramalina 08-18-2006 07:00 AM

When you go into world ancient history we find tamil there. What can I do in this ? I treat all the languages equal and I find no difference / distinction between one (sound ) to another (sound).

Which century Kempe gowda belongs to ? What was the name of Bangalore before kempegowda ?

Bangalore was the place called ‘Venkaaloore’ in Venki Naadu during 10th century.

Anyway I move on to next part.

Latin words of tamil origin and Greek words of tamil origin written by Professor K.S.A. Knana kiri Nadar will give more light in finding out the roots of English words.

Time to time I shall also write in this. If time permits we may go into English vocabulary in its length and breadth.

A / Vowel starting words are very much essential since vowels plays major role in any language formation.

Ab-scind – to cut off , Latin – Scindere tamil – sinthuthal

Abs-cond – to take oneself off, Latin - Condere Tamil – Kaanaathan (Kanamal ponavan)

Ab-sense - Latin – esse Tamil –eya Eyakki and esakki from this root

Ab-solve – to set free Latin – solvere Tamil – Salpu –viduthaiyadai, Niraivadai

Abs-tinent – refrain from Latin- tenere Tamil - Thinaru

f.s.gandhi

LsrSRVxR 09-25-2006 07:00 AM

Solomon, it now appears that Sanskrit is actually an offspring of Greek or Latin. Never Indian.!

Thanks for telling us that!

iodillalm 09-26-2006 07:00 AM

Hmm..good one, Q! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...on_biggrin.gif

Okay, how abt Bungalow???? Comes from the Hindi word, Banglae!

Or even juggernaut - from Jagarnath's chariot!!

averkif 10-06-2006 07:00 AM

Dear friends, http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Mayuram’ a town in tamilnadu was named after ‘Mayuri’ which is name for peacock / mayil. It is mayiladuthurai now.

Some 200 years back this mayuram turned ‘Mayavaram’ / Mayaaram and one 'purana' was created that A fellow got one 'varam' from 'sivan' god and after that he named the town as ‘mayavaram’ which is not having authentic proof.

Likewise Bangalore was called ‘Venkaaloore’ and some of the local poetry signifies this. Other stories are unbelievable.

Take the word ‘aborigines’ - ab origines - Latin root is ‘ab origine’

In tamil ‘ari’ means beginning. Lot of words like ‘arisi’,‘arichuvadi’, ‘arikaall’ are there to specify this meaning. ‘ari Om’ is beginning of god manthras.

‘Arisanam’ is to specify ‘turmer’ which is beginning of any cultural function to remind ancestors.

This ‘arisanam’ turned ‘origine’ phonetically to specify the tribe / inhabitants of any land.

Take the word ‘above’. It is from old English ‘abufan’ which was from ‘abuv’ Latin word. Now the English word is pronounced as ‘abuv’. The root is ‘buv’

In tamil uvan / puvan means top / upwards / sky. Puvan turned ‘buv’/ abuv to specify upwards.

f.s.gandhi

weluvjessicaalba 10-07-2006 07:00 AM

The English Words
Anchor is from tamil Nangooram
Jinger is from Ingi ver of Tamil , as root is the item we use.


FSG- You have been putting your misunderstood falsehoods as Truths and again you unwantdly attack me on my Latin comments, which is the Truth. Sir William Jones in 18th Cen wrote- The Sanskrit Language.... whatever be its antiquity, more perfect than the Greek, more copius than Latin and more exquisitly refined than either, yet bearing to both of them a Stronger affinity both in the roots and in the form of Grammer, than could possibly have been produced by accident, so strong indeed, that no Philologist could examine all Thre, without believing them to have sprung from some common source, which perhaps no longer exists.

I have proved beyond doubt, that the Biggest Anti-Tamilar but BIG hYpocrite Devaneyan had to agree that Tholkappiyam, to entire Tamil Literature clearly refers Vedas and Sanskrit Literature, and we do not have any Tamil Literature, without the backup of Vedas and Maxmuller took the duty to try to Backdate Vedas and to stop the Idea, Sanskrit as mother of Latin and Greek , which he changed as Elder SIster and this I QUOTE with Blavatsky the founder of Thesophical Society- "Inflectional Spech: the root of the Sanskrit, very erroneously called the "elder sister" of the Greek, instead of its mother- was the first language, now the mystery tongue of the Intiates, othe Fifth Race. The "Semitic " languages are the Bastard descendants of the First Phonetic corruption of the eldest children of the early Sanskrit"- Secret Doctrine. Vol-3 PG 205.
Friends, if I am taking little extra page, because the Falsehood spread in India- in particularly Tamilnadu has become a Poison in Milk Tank and you can click my views and how after every posting others have changed and diverted the Dialogue, without any truths just arguing un blind beliefs, makes things impossible, but truth remains and my further arguements please watch in other forums and I WILL use this for etymology.
MosesMohammedSolomon


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