[violalmina]

I'm totally against it. Period.

The government is doing the same thing as the killer. Premeditated murder. That makes them no better than the one getting put to death, in my eyes. Besides, it's no punishment. A lifetime in solitary is much harder for someone to deal with than simply being put to sleep.

Besides, the risk is too great that you're killing someone who isn't really guilty. At least it's getting better now with DNA testing and all. Just think of all the people who have been freed from death row over their innocence proven via DNA. What if those people had been killed? It's just awful to even think about it. And think about the innocent who have died before there was any DNA tests.

The only time I justify killing someone is in self-defense. When you or someone you love's life is being threatened. Even then, I think it's better to inflict some non-fatal blow to stop someone, if at all possible.

I just value life too much. I think it's horrible to even consider killing another human, no matter what they've done.

[euylvaygdq]

With the greatest respect, I do not think that the questions posed in the poll were sufficiently qualified. And surely, some qualification has to be present in a question of such importance.

I shall therefore qualify my answer.

(Sorry folks... but) I voted "in favour" of the death penalty.

With a very large, very obvious .... "BUT" .....!

My reasoning is this :

Occasionally, one comes across the really habitual, despotic, psychotic, depraved, unremorseful, disdainful, violent animal among us - who we politely refer to as a "criminal".

The sort of person who, for example, delights in beating old ladies to death ... or repeatedly rapes (for fun, or money via porn flicks ... or both ...) young children as young as eighteen months of age ... the sort of person who doesn't give a damn about the results of selling 'Crystal Meth' or 'Crack' or whatever to the ten-year olds at the local school as long as he or she makes a buck. The sort of person who will lure a fifteen-year old girl from a forum such as this one (yes!) and kidnap her, rape her repeatedly ...... you know ...

(Some of) these folks are beyond redemption!

They are filth. Scum. Not worth the effort!

Top 'em! Get rid of 'em.

BUT!

.... Don't get the wrong guy!

This is my qualification.

If the death penalty were to be imposed by (Judge) Sensuikan ....

"Beyond all reasonable doubt" would not do it. (Unreasonable doubt .... is still ... doubt!)

It would have to be "Beyond any doubt at all"

I see nothing wrong with that at all.

So ... if you're 'caught in the act', recorded on video ..... or .... I suppose, nothing else ...... (even a confession can't be relied on ... !) ...... it would be "Good-Bye cruel world"!

....... and a bloody good riddance!

ジョン

[xochgtlm]

Well, I agree my thought was a bit simplistic... and it certainly wouldn't alleviate the court costs of trying to find out his/her guilt or innocence...

[intisgunkas]

If an innocent is executed, shall we require death penalty for the judge and jury ?

Excellent question.

[GillTeepbew]

....I did think about making other chioces available, but then you could end up with a very long list, so I went for the KISS approach (Keep It Simple, Stupid). It is probably better for people qualify their responses on what can be a very complicated subject.

Yes ... now, I can see that. Your point is well made.

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[Qnnoshxj]

I'm totally against the death penalty.

[inownsuipsy]

Yes! Mikecash!

[Peapeuddedbaw]

there is absolutely no doubt the person committed a brutal crime and should not ever be released, death is OK with me. Why should my taxes go to feed,clothe,provide medical care, (cable TV) , etc.. I'd rather spend my hard earned dollars on people who deserve help.

Frank

[IntinyBut]

If an innocent is executed, shall we require death penalty for the judge and jury ?

[purchasviagra]

I can't find any specific thread on this, but it might be relavent. Today the US has excuted its 1000 person since the death penalty was introduced. See here Another reason is that two people on the forum have mentioned that they do not agree with the death penalty on recent posts. I wonder what the general opinion of most people on this forum is? I agree with the two who said that they do not agree with it. I find the idea barbaric and doesn't really address what has happened. I think a civilised society needn't kill off those that murder or commit treason. In some cases some of these people want to be excuted and become their own martyrs like Timothy McVeigh. I think it doesn't prevent violent crimes. Most criminals commit crimes thinking that they will not get caught. Unfortunately or fortunately most criminals are not as clever as they think. A deterent will not stop these type of people. There is also a risk of getting and exectuing the wrong person. I remember watching a TV programme several years ago, an Horizon on BBC2, about a man on death row. He maintained he was innocent right up to his execution. A week later a witness was found that proved that he was innocent. She was afraid to speak up at the time because she was black and feared reprisals. Now maybe this is a European or English view on this as a lot of European countries do not have a death penalty. See Here
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[replicajoy]

Perhaps in the future scientist will perfect the cryogenic process and prisoners can be stored at a minimal cost to society... until then...

[crycleascentyv]

Perhaps in the future scientist will perfect the cryogenic process and prisoners can be stored at a minimal cost to society... until then...

Ooooh! Deary me!

Sorry Anjusan ... but, really, isn't that an even more barbaric answer than execution?

I can only suppose that it would allow one to say "I haven't actually terminated someone's life!" .... just put 'em into a permanent coma and chucked 'em into a freezer for ..... a coupla hundred years ... ?

A great conscience preserver I agree ... but .... uugh...!

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[Yyaqyped]

Nice to see you here again, Mikecash!

Anyway, the reason why I'm against the death penalty is because it is paradoxical (not sure if that's the right word). You have this 'moral' standard that says 'it's wrong to kill someone' - and then... someone who commits murder... as punishment they are condemned to death? That doesn't make sense to me. If killing someone is wrong, then it's wrong whoever does it. To say otherwise is making like certain people have more of a right than otherwise to judge who should live and who should die, and I think that's very suspect indeed, to put it mildly.

No, let's make 'life' imprisonment be for life, in cases of murder and for highly dangerous criminals, that way we are not being hypocrites, there is also the chance to reprieve the wrongly-convicted guy, and... actually you could say death is a more merciful punishment, in fact, if someone had killed someone I loved, I would get more sense of 'revenge' to think of them suffering than to think they were happily dead - I would rather be the one dead.

[MilenaJaf]

Isn't there pretty much always at least some doubt?

Pretty much .... yes!

Sometimes .... no!

(Then ... the axeman cometh ....!)

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[Kiariitf]

I voted not sure.

In the abstract, it is easy for me to be pro death penalty, but this month we are going to kill convicted four time murderer "Tookie" Williams in California. It is not abstract anymore. It is totally real. The guy claims to be founder of the Crips gang and claims to be rehabilitated. He has written childrens books designed to keep kids out of gangs and has been mentioned to the Nobel panel for a peace prize.

But he shotgunned a clerk twice in the back as he lay on the floor face down. He killed a husaband, wife and daugter in their house. If any man should die, it is the one that could do something like this.

Death penalty cases cost significantly more than the upkeep of one prisoner for life, even in maximum security. The death penalty also does not deter anyone from committing crimes. In the US, it's application is sporadic and random.


But on the other hand these are really really bad people who have done horrible things. It is also a valued tool to be used by prosecutors to get plea bargains, cooperation, confessions...

[Larisochka]

oops accidentaly pushed for, i'm against.

It's just inhumane and a lot of other things. I rather people turn them into slave labor.

Same here.

[bestgenpower]

I'm not sure, mostly due to lack of exposure to death-penalty-related news events/cases. I'm willing, though, to become better informed about the issue.

I will say, however, that I was utterly disgusted by Malaysia's execution of Nguyen Tuong Van (BBC Source Link. Actually, looking at recent news articles, I'm not sure Malaysia's government and policies really have anything great going for them.

[bikersfan]

Totally against it. I'm glad here in Europe we have permanently done away with it.

Yeah that's really great. Even tho i'm against also, i sometimes think all this serial killers and men who raped women deserve death in some way. They destroyed someones live, someone died because of them. Anyway, prison for the rest of the life is an good idea too, as long as they don't excape.

If an innocent is executed, shall we require death penalty for the judge and jury ?

That's why i'm against. You can't always be 100% sure you got the right person!