[Ngdyoysv]

I kind of think Danzig (the WW1 Polish corridor) was justified as most people living there were ethnic Germans. This was, of course, unacceptable to the allies because it would mean Poland would have not access to the sea.

[wentscat]

Purely for back ground information this is a map of Germany at the start of WW1.



Austria-Hungary was an empire to the Southeast of Germany but which was dominated by ethnic Germans. In the 19th century German nationalists wanted it to become part of German but the Austrians, although ethnic Germans, had a large multicultural empire of their own and didn't want to give up their Empire. Briefly, (1917-1918) Austria-Hungary and Germany agreed to merge when their ruling monarchs died but WW1 ended before that happened so the merger never happened while the allies were keen on making sure the German states didn't become consolidated in central Europe. Do you think that would have been justified? Do you think that would have been justified if the non-ethnic German parts were allowed independence?

[Pdarasenko]

Ahhh the good old days.

edit: oh and you forgot luxembourg!

[22paseabelldaps]

Ahhh the good old days.

edit: oh and you forgot luxembourg!

Yeah, should have been included but forgotten.

[Kolokireo]

Oh, shut up and answer the question.

[FalHaitle]

Großdeutschland

[97dYA9L3]

Yep, that was easy™

[JulieSmithXIV]

Oh, shut up and answer the question.

None of the areas were incorporated democratically so none of the acquisitions were justified.

[Vjwkvkoy]

The idea was to kill or at least expel all the Poles to create "living space" for the ethnic Germans.

I know. I was asking how justified were A, B, C where each was one of the three options I gave.

The idealized Nazi society was actually an agrarian one: to allow the citizens to get in touch with their roots. Of course, they would need alot more land to accomplish this, and Poland was right next door. And since they considered Poles to be less than human, the annexation was completely justified from the Nazi perspective. Yes, the Nazis got elected originally and then swept power via Bismark's death by promising return to an idealized agrarian past but what they delivered was ever more concentration in the cities for industrial output. Not that such things matter to the question in the OP.

[GaxyGroordrep]

None of the areas were incorporated democratically so none of the acquisitions were justified.

Technically, Austria was incorporated democratically though one could reasonably object to allowing German soldiers to vote to end Austrian independence since they were not Austrian citizens.

[MgpojuWy]

So stop cutting and pasting.

Option-S on a Mac = ß

Not hard at all. ALT+0223 on Windows

ALT+0246 is ö.

[Civilrecordzz]

I was going to say the ss thing but I didn't want to offend the jews

[Bromikka]

I was going to say the ss thing but I didn't want to offend the jews


It's only offensive if you use capitals and a runic-looking font.

[proslaviy]

I'm Jewish. I'm one of those black Jews from Ethiopia.

[loan4younow]

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[Trotoleterm]

Germans are evil, Oerdin. Nothing they do is morally justified.

[casinochniks]

The Germans can't be allowed self-determination. It's the duty of civilized nations to keep them weak and in a cage, praying that they never find a way out.

[PheliarearY]

Non-retards could figure it out.

Oh, **** you, retard. We all know that without looking it up you had no clue how to type ß. Don't bother denying it as we all know the truth.

[dxpfmP0l]

What is and isn't a "people" is kind of hard to define. For example, whether Austrians are Germans or something else is a matter of opinion. Unless a majority of Austrians agree that they are Germans and this is proven through a fair, democratic referendum I don't see how annexation could ever be justified.

Also I never typed ß until now.

But I could have figured it out. And that's not a façade.

[AdobeCreativeSuite]

The only area which democratically voted to join German was Austria though arguably the Sudetenland also voted to join Germany. I doubt any other areas voted to join Germany though I wonder what would have happened if they were given the chance. At least for the ethnic German areas as I think we all know how the nonethnic German areas would have voted.

The Nazis had already taken over and the vote was obviously fraudulent. It passed with 99.1%.