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Old 04-09-2010, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Thread for Heraclitus to continue his theories on race
Ah what a happy coincidence that someone with such well known racist views as Heraclitus has just posted his overwhelmingly
Name one.

Edit: Dosen't matter. I've changed my opinions to be a degree more heretical once again in my rant below. I'm sure there is plenty of "racist" things you can mine there.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:22 PM   #2
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Uhh it might have something to do with you saying that africans have "low IQs"
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:06 PM   #3
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Uhh it might have something to do with you saying that africans have "low IQs"
Average IQ's differ by racial groups. All experts agree on this. Some attribute it to flaws in testing, others to environmental factors others yet to genetics, most admit some mix of the three.



There are two arguments you can make about this that would perhaps make this fact irrelevant in the debate.
1. Its entirely environmental
2. IQ dosen't measure inteligence

I can conceed both these points if you like. It still dosen't change the fact IQ measures "doing well and being healthy and happy" in a European type civilization pretty well. Dosen't change the fact that all attempts to close the gap have failed, improvements in lviing conditons have seen all people gain IQ points over time, but the gap remains constant.


And the suspicius thing is that no matter which test you take or who develops the test the gap remains (note I'm talking about SES adjusted values here) on practically any "inteligence", proficiency or even just plain knowledge test. And the gaps look remarkably constant. Wouldn't you expect for there to be different biases depending on who makes the test? If it was all down to bias wouldn't you expect perhaps blacks doing best with Asians second and whites last on a test instead of seeing the same order on all tests (esp. those designed by non-whites or non-asians)?


Dismiss IQ adjusted for SES and how different groups regress to different means this leaves LSAT, MCAT, SAT, NLSY, NAEP, AVASB, GRE, WISC, ect.


Perhaps this is just societies fault. But if it is why should we (people who owe the third and western world nothing historically speaking) carry the burden of fixing something apparently so difficult and expensive to fix in our own back yards?
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:24 PM   #4
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Here you go. Nice shiny new thready-wead for you, so stop arseing up the UK election thread.

Incidentally, speaking on behalf of all Western Europe I'd just like to remind you that Africa starts at Austria's southern/eastern borders.
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:53 PM   #5
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:59 PM   #6
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For some reason, when I see his name I think "Here a clit is".
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:43 PM   #7
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But clits are good. :shrug:
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:53 PM   #8
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Clits are also good when you have your fingers on them.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:02 PM   #9
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You talk like Ben, but he's smarter than you.
Ouch.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:04 PM   #10
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I don't know why some people in this thread consider being an African an insult? Talk about racism
It isn't, unless you want to discuss mean IQ's being lower than the Western European norm. And recent history marred by crap politics and wars.

Like the nations of the former Yugoslavia.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:34 PM   #11
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Well somone seems a bit hostile.
Why is it hostile?



Also I'm not stopping you making a thread about Yugoslav history and present condition. I fail to see whats wrong with talking about problems the world or various regions face today and have in the past.
Why start a new thread? The issue of Balkan mental retardation fits neatly here.
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:04 PM   #12
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Recently, a good friend of mine was mugged and had his wallet stolen by a gang of criminal Slovenian scum. I wish they would deport these people since they have no place in a civilized state like Texas.

Excuse me while I read my copy of Arthur de Gobineau's "Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races" and horsewhip my colored servants for slacking off.
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:21 PM   #13
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To get a feeling what the Balkan figures might mean I'm posting this graph, soruce is Linda Susanne Gottfredson (2004)

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Old 04-10-2010, 09:35 AM   #14
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I love the fact that "Chemist" is right up there at the top
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Old 04-10-2010, 01:19 PM   #15
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Everyone loves stripped-out biochemist

Accountants are so down the list too

And get to the gym you lazy bastard
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:24 PM   #16
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You do realize there are at least a few Croatian posters here and probably a Serbian or two?
And I'll probably be in trouble if someone reads this thread to them, and explains it.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:58 PM   #17
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Isn't that precisely the point of conducting such a survey, you ****ing moron? To determine if IQ tests retain their predictive powers even when applied across cultures/countries?

You're even less of a scientist than Hera is. Tard.

(None of this is meant to defend this specific study's methodology, which appears to be pretty poor; making up figures for a given country because they aren't available isn't acceptable)
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:41 AM   #18
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You're even less of a scientist than Hera is. Tard.
High praise. Enjoy it.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:28 PM   #19
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That was disproven a long time ago. The only modern point to be made by such a survey is to feed the stormfronters.
Feel free to provide some evidence for that claim


Anyway, you're a fkn moron for thinking that a survey could prove any such thing. Indeed, a better way to investigate the question is to take your unsupported proclamations at face value.

You're a ****ing idiot. Seriously.

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