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End game... I believe in meritocracy too but not for civil or human rights. How do you define them, what about how other people define them? Why not leave the decision about what human rights are to people or God forbid the market? Shouldn't reality be the judge of what works best? Is acces to information a "human right"? Inteligence agencies violate them for our own good. Is freedom a "human right"? We deny it to those who endanger other people's "human rights". Or for his own good since he is a drug user. Or is our political oponent. Is freedom of speech a "human right"? What about when it endangers other people's "human rights"? Who decides on when this is the case? Sure I'm pulling an old quis custodiet ipsos custodes in my last two questions. But mull on this. What is a "human" in the longview? |
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The natural world only cares about what survives. The most rational human would opt for a system that does the best it can to help humans in their current form survive (and any deviants from human norm would opt for systems that ensure that for them). Perhaps human rights are a good aproach to this, but I see massive issues with how one scales them. Human rights brought to their ultimate conclusions are inhumane and censorship in these few precious centuries before radical selfmodification takes off is worth far less than the future, I stand by this even if we need to reduce human illusions of saftey in order to facilitate true information agregation.
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Note that the Tea Party is still largely decentralized. Any claims to 'leaders' of the TP are generally just attempts (by the GOP, in the case of Palin) to co-opt the movement and garner TP votes.
There is a distinct difference between libertarian TPers like Rand Paul and warmongering 'conservative' Tea-o-cons like Palin. |
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