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20th Century Presidents hurt or heal

Clinton 11 +
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 8 --
Carter 10
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 10
Eisenhower 10
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 11
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

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Clinton 11
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 9
Carter 8 --
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 10
Eisenhower 10
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 11
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

Rules
1. You can add 1 point and deduct 2 points each vote.
2. You can only vote once a day.
3. When one has 0 it is eliminated.
4. Whichever one is left at the end - wins!

Clinton 11
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 10
Carter 4 --
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 10
Eisenhower 11 +
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 11
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

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Clinton 13+
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 6--
Carter 4
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 10
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 11
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

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Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 6
Carter 2
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 8 --
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 13 +
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

I cannot allow the Ronnie to be first out.

Buh bye, Carter. You did not deserve it.

Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 5 +
Carter 0 --
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 8
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 14 +
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 4 +
Carter 0
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 6 --
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 14
Hoover 10
Coolidge 10
Harding 9 +
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 10
McKinley 10

I'm not a Reagan fan, but there is no way he deserves to be the second out. (Nor Carter the first. Partisan jackasses, the lot of you.)

Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 1
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 8
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 14
Hoover 8 --
Coolidge 10
Harding 10
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11 +
McKinley 10

OUT:
#1 Carter
#2

Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 3 +
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 6
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 14
Hoover 8
Coolidge 10
Harding 8 --
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11
McKinley 10

OUT:
#1 Carter
#2

Clinton 13
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 1--
Ford 10
Nixon 10
Johnson 10
Kennedy 7+
Eisenhower 11
Truman 10
F. Roosevelt 14
Hoover 8
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11
McKinley 10

So did Kennedy, it ain't helping him any.

Clinton 14 +
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 0 --
Ford 10
Nixon 8
Johnson 10
Kennedy 5+
Eisenhower 11
Truman 11
F. Roosevelt 14
Hoover 8
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11
McKinley 10

OUT:
#1 Carter
#2 Reagan

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ok, since the point is to get rid of the guys who turned USA into the #1 superpower in the world it is now, our next target is clinton http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

seriously guys, this is partisan hackery on ridiculous levels. take a look at how USA was doing in 1981, then take a look at it in 1989. can anyone honestly say it was worse off in 1989?

reagan changed the trajectory of America, he turned it from slow (and inevitable-looking, google carter's malaise speech to have a feeling of the zeitgeist, 90%+ thought that the future would be worse) decline into a new renaissance of prosperity

big http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif for anyone who thought reagan was the 2nd worse president for America and downvoted him.

I love how you think you know anything about the subject.

He deserves it for Reagonomics alone. Massive increase on public debt. He tripled the national debt in his tenure. A recession started in his 2nd year in office.
Also:
The job growth under the Reagan administration was an average of 2.1% per year, which is in the middle of the pack of twentieth-century Presidents.[citation needed] Comparing the recovery from the 1981-82 recession (1983-1990) with the years between 1971 (end of a recession) and 1980 shows that the rate of growth of real GDP per capita averaged 2.77 under Reagan and 2.50% under Nixon, Ford and Carter. However, the unemployment rate averaged higher under Reagan (6.75% vs. 6.35%), average productivity growth was slower under Reagan (1.38% vs. 1.92%) and private investment as a percentage of GDP also averaged lower under Reagan (16.08% vs. 16.86%). Furthermore, real wages declined during the Reagan Presidency.[37] What makes this comparison so significant is that between 1971 and 1980 the economy suffered a severe recession in 1975 whereas during the Reagan recovery there was no such interruption.[38]

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No, Kennedy is 5. It's just that Jon Miller didn't delete the previous pluses and minuses, nor the colors that Ozzy used.

Jon Miller

Jon Miller

Most of us weren't around to care about Hoover or Harding.

Yeah, I was around when Reagan was ****ing **** up

We had been receiving those types of warnings prior to his taking office and I have no doubt that Clinton still being in office wouldn't have made a different, but yeah, maybe not the best example.

Yeah, kind of like the next generation fans in the star trek one.

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misguided

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you guys don't know have a clue what you're talking about. we're wasting our time.

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I'm also surprised how much Reagan hate there is. And Carter hate for that matter.

I'm still angry that DS9 lost so early in the ST thing, so I direct my rage against Reagan http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/nod.gif