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Old 02-05-2010, 05:39 PM   #1
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Default Interesting musings on IQ and the Wealth of Nations
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:08 PM   #2
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What? Slovenians are dumb? Judging by your posts, I'd say that's been adequately proved.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:14 PM   #3
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You must be a very fast reader to have skimmed the article as quickly as you have.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:35 PM   #4
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Is Easter Europe filled with rabbits, chocolate eggs, or both? (or either?)
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:37 PM   #5
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Interesting article. I like how he has isolated verbal IQ as a more predictive metric.
Yes most of his articles (the ones I've read so far) are quite iluminating. Its much easier to comprehend as an explanation for why East Asian capitalist economies don't do that much better than Western European capitalist economies than some vague notions of "conformity" or "creativity".
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:53 PM   #6
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The name of the thread poster belies the title.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:06 PM   #7
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The name of the thread poster belies the title.
Drake is quite correct. But please remember I've spent a long time trolling on apolyton so I may be basically immune to even such harsh insults.


Anyhow the musings are not my own. Considering my OP comments are minimal, does it really matter who starts the thread? I know this may be a bit too un-PC but I would never the less like to hear your comment on his article. It makes very much sense, even as rough as it is.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:12 PM   #8
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Now that you are no longer a communist, do you still have a problem with real nonmalleable differences between human populations? I have no difficulty believing that one human life is one human life regardless of abilities. But many people (my old self included) have a need to somehow demonstrate empirical equality as a precondition for our common humanity. Does spiritual equality (now that you belive in a immortal God given soul) help you reconcile this or would you still call any findings that showed important cognitive racial differences racist?


Note I am not even saying differences in inteligence. As the article shows the average Chinese and Briton may have equal IQs but have different values for the components.


Also dosen't this paint a depressing picture for the future of the third world?
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:28 PM   #9
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Flynn effect. IQ's are rising around the world.

Treat kids badly. Raise them in poverty or warzones. Deny them encouragement in learning. They will score low IQs.

The environmental impact on IQ scores is profound
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:57 PM   #10
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What am I supposed to be taking away from Laz's chart besides the obvious fact that the South is a shithole?
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:37 AM   #11
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Anybody iqs by state controlling for race? Best I could find is 8th grade NAEP math scores for white students.
West Virginia 264
Mississippi 275
Alabama 276
Tennessee 276
Kentucky 278
Oklahoma 279
Hawaii 279
Arkansas 281
Louisiana 282
Georgia 284
Iowa 285
Nevada 285
Rhode Island 286
Michigan 286
Utah 287
Florida 287
New Mexico 287
Maine 287
California 287
Missouri 289
Arizona 289
Nebraska 289
Wyoming 290
Indiana 291
Virginia 291
Ohio 292
South Carolina 292
Oregon 292
Kansas 292
New York 293
Idaho 293
Illinois 294
South Dakota 294
Pennsylvania 295
New Hampshire 295
Montana 295
Alaska 295
Delaware 296
Vermont 296
Wisconsin 297
North Dakota 298
Connecticut 298
North Carolina 298
Washington 300
New Jersey 302
Maryland 303
Minnesota 303
Colorado 303
Texas 304
Massachusetts 306
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Old 02-06-2010, 02:10 AM   #12
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Those musings were not interesting, you lying sack of crap.
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Old 02-06-2010, 05:07 AM   #13
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Those musings were not interesting, you lying sack of crap.
I'm guessing you're sucker enough to click the link.
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Old 02-06-2010, 07:27 PM   #14
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You cut the word "badly" off the bottom of the picture.
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:42 AM   #15
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His point:
Dumbness correlates with poverty. But correlation does not imply causation.
I thought it was religiousness directly correlates with dumbness. It has been conclusively proved here on poly that the vast majority of the dumb posters are also the religious ones, for example.

Anyway, none of this stops you from being an out and out racist.
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:01 AM   #16
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Flynn effect. IQ's are rising around the world.

Treat kids badly. Raise them in poverty or warzones. Deny them encouragement in learning. They will score low IQs.

The environmental impact on IQ scores is profound
AFAIK, the effect is consistent across groups and preserves the gaps between them. So the one-standard-deviation black-white-gap has remained constant even taking the effect into account, precisely because it applies to both groups. (Which shouldn't be happening if it was environment which was responsible for blacks lagging behind. (Not strictly true - it could happen if whites had the same environmental problems as blacks to begin with; but in that case, it means that if all other things are equal, blacks lag behind.))
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:48 PM   #17
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I thought it was religiousness directly correlates with dumbness. It has been conclusively proved here on poly that the vast majority of the dumb posters are also the religious ones, for example.
Quoted for reference.

Anyway, none of this stops you from being an out and out racist.


It is always amusing to watch the religious attempting to rationalise away the facts when their religion has no room for them. (In your equality-addled mind, everyone is born equal, with equal abilities and equal potential, and the races are not different qualitatively or statistically.)

Sadly, neither reality nor science nor the common sense of the last six thousand years of human history (nor human history, come to think of it) support this view.

Lastly, "racist"? Are you serious? The only reason that that smear worked was because people took it seriously - because they were your co-religionists, and it felt as serious to them as being accused of kufr would to a Muslim. Nobody cares any more - you can utter your juvenile canards until you're blue in the face, and you'll be ignored in all serious discussions on the topic.

You're acting as if repeating this mantra will protect you from the heretic with his dangerous ideas. If you want a sniff of the acrid, sulphurous smell of the "racist" truth, look here.
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:15 PM   #18
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Surprising that no one has pointed out that IQ tests merely measure one's proficiency at IQ tests; little else.

Surprising, yes, because people really love to repeat that untruth.
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:25 PM   #19
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Untruth, sir? If you don't see the truth of it I'm not going to explain...
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:10 PM   #20
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Yes, of course. The world is as simple as you want it to be.

You win the thread.
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