[enfoires]

You realize you're BAMing about Louisiana, don't you?

[Louthcoombutt]

Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them. So what's the problem? Yes people are idiots. Just because they are a justice of the peace doesn't stop them from being idiots.

He is right about a couple things though:

He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships This is very true. Racism is a two way street.

[Seiblybiozy]

You realize you're BAMing about Louisiana, don't you?

What's the bald assertion about LA in his post?

[Spongebob]

Bald assertions? I'm not sure what you mean.

Accusing Louisiana of having race issues is about like clubbing a baby seal.

[triarmarm]

Bald assertions? I'm not sure what you mean.

Accusing Louisiana of having race issues is about like clubbing a baby seal.

BAM stands for "bald assertion man".

How were you using it?

[whatisthebluepill]

You realize you're BAMing about Louisiana, don't you?

So we're not suppose to discuss race issues as they come up just because it happened in a Southern state?

I didn't post this because I'm shocked about where this happened. But if I had any surprise, it would be that any government official can still get away with denying marriage license to interracial couples in this day and age in U.S.

[xanaxist]

He's not a judge, by the way. He's a justice of the peace. There's a difference.

Depending on the jurisdiction, JPs may or may not be judges.

[dogdesign]

I knew a guy that said that cardinals and blue jays were both beautiful, but they didn't mix. He was racist.

Cardinals and blue jays are separate species, not separate races, so if anything the guy's a speciest. And it's true that no amount of sexy cardinal-on-blue-jay action will produce offspring.

[Proodustommor]

I think, I'm not sure, but I think they probably got into the marriage side of it due to the divorce side of it.

[SHUSIATULSE]

Yes, things have gotten better but let's face reality here. The south is still the most racist part of America.

Bullshit! Per usual your ignorance is stunning.

What appears more common in the south than the north is the well advertised presence of a very small minority of overtly racist pinheads. Is there no Klan and Neo-Nazis in the north? Travel in rural Ohio, Pennsylvania, and upstate NY. Funny that the Klan and Neo-Nazis in those states are hardly ever shown despite their having more members than in the south.

Having spent 2 years working in NJ, I can say that I found racism there to be a pervasive underlying factor that permeates the whole culture, something that isnt true here. The few African-Americans who've lived in both places that I know personally agree with me. In the south you know if someone is a racist, they dont tend to (or need to) hide it. In the north, racism is more common and more destructive because it is hidden.

Its interesting to me that the African-American movement to the north (the Great Migration) has now reversed and that middle class African-Americans are now moving back to the south in large numbers away from the pseudo "racial-equality" of the north.

[SusanSazzios]

Hera, unlike in Euroland, people in NA don't like it when gov't bureaucrats (paid by the public!) are allowed to act capriciously in the exercise of their office. It's not up to him to decide that interracial marriage is a bad idea any more than it's up to the human resources guy at town hall to decide that he's not going hire black people because he thinks they're lazy.

[oneliRafmeene]

You'd be considered a "racialist".

[MichaelfromSpace]

Hera, unlike in Euroland, people in NA don't like it when gov't bureaucrats (paid by the public!) are allowed to act capriciously in the exercise of their office. It's not up to him to decide that interracial marriage is a bad idea any more than it's up to the human resources guy at town hall to decide that he's not going hire black people because he thinks they're lazy.

There are certain cases where they are allowed to act capriciously. For example over here a doctor is allowed to say no to not prescribing (I know I'm using the wrong word but I can't think of the right one) an abortion if a woman ask for it, but he is under obligation to send her to a doctor who will.




Also what about a muslim civil servant that refused to marry a muslim woman and atheist/pagan/Jewish/Christian man because it goes against his religion?

[Vegeinvalge]

Racialist is an uncommon word. In common parlance you would be a racist. Racialism does not carry the connotation that you believe in the superiority of or need for dominance by any given race; it simply means that you believe that certain races are innately better at certain things.

Now, if you want to carry this to the extreme, very few people wouldn't be racialists at all; for example, only the ignorant would claim that white people aren't innately better at not getting sickle-cell anemia.

The line between racialism and simple evidence-based beliefs comes when you start to get into the question of more poorly-defined quantities and those subject to environmental effects like intelligence or athletic ability.

[Abanijo]

So we're not suppose to discuss race issues as they come up just because it happened in a Southern state?

It seems as if you've never been in the South and so are unable to make distinctions in attitudes among different parts of the South.

[Justlovemy]

Originally Posted by MrFun
So we're not suppose to discuss race issues as they come up just because it happened in a Southern state?

It seems as if you've never been in the South and so are unable to make distinctions in attitudes among different parts of the South.

He's a generalizing dork.

[riverakathy]

Racialist is an uncommon word. In common parlance you would be a racist. Racialism does not carry the connotation that you believe in the superiority of or need for dominance by any given race; it simply means that you believe that certain races are innately better at certain things.

Now, if you want to carry this to the extreme, very few people wouldn't be racialists at all; for example, only the ignorant would claim that white people aren't innately better at not getting sickle-cell anemia.

The line between racialism and simple evidence-based beliefs comes when you start to get into the question of more poorly-defined quantities and those subject to environmental effects like intelligence or athletic ability.

But why did you put the list of beliefs in the racialist category and even told me that in parlance I would be called racist?

I thought things like different responses to medication or adaptations of races to climate where evidence-based?


Dosen't this mean that you can be called a boo word (a racist) because you reason acording to evidence? Or to put it bluntly is the only sure way of avoiding this particular stigma that might cost you your job or friends is to ignore facts?

[Yartonbler]

This is very true. Racism is a two way street.

Duh? That's the very definition, off course people of all races can be racist. But how you used this makes no sense.


If I understand it right most US blacks go by various variations of the one drop rule to decide if someone is black.

Example: Barack Obama is considered black

[zoppereurvito]

But why did you put the list of beliefs in the racialist category and even told me that in parlance I would be called racist?

I thought things like different responses to medication or adaptations of races to climate where evidence-based?

Are you having some serious problems reading English?

a) I said that you would be a racialist if we were being careful about terminology. In COMMON PARLANCE you would be a racist, because the distinction between racism and racialism is rarely acknowledged.

b) I have no idea why you're complaining about some aspects of racial differences being strongly evidence based. I gave an example of this myself to demonstrate that there was a continuum of beliefs about the inherent properties of different races, ranging from the self-evident "I believe black people are better at not getting sunburn than white people" to the obviously controversial "I believe that white people tend to be less violent and more intelligent than black people as a result of genetic differences" and beyond. My point is that the line between racialism and simple knowledge is somewhat fuzzy, but can be defined at least broadly.

[longrema]

Hera, not only is the JP not within his rights, but if he were specifically GRANTED the right to refuse to marry interracial couples by state law I'm fairly certain that this law would be struck down on constitutional grounds.