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Old 07-16-2009, 12:53 AM   #1
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Default Iraq - The war that just keeps on giving
Given that there are about a million Iraq & Afghanistan war vets around and have been for a few years (let's say 2, to be generous to your side of this) this gives a murder commission rate of 6 per 100 000 per annum. Slightly higher than the US average (~5 per 100 000 per annum) but actually fairly low once you include stuff like age and gender (the veterans will be disproportionately male, all will be adults, and most will be under 35).

How is this even a story?
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:19 AM   #2
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Does that mean we can kill this thread as it is not post worthy?
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:25 AM   #3
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Wiggy, you're so strange..
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:42 AM   #4
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Insults about intelligence are usually taken more seriously when rules regarding spelling are observed.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:29 AM   #5
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Given that there are about a million Iraq & Afghanistan war vets around and have been for a few years (let's say 2, to be generous to your side of this) this gives a murder commission rate of 6 per 100 000 per annum. Slightly higher than the US average (~5 per 100 000 per annum) but actually fairly low once you include stuff like age and gender (the veterans will be disproportionately male, all will be adults, and most will be under 35). QFMFT.

It was painful reading this article and not being able to post this in response.

How is this even a story? Because it fits the theme that US soldiers are brutal bloodthirsty babykillers.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:45 AM   #6
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No offense Ben, but KH isn't any kind of oracle - he can without any problem be an idiot - he occationally proves such, though he will probably deny such. His post gives the information sorely lacking in the article that soldiers are less likely as a percentage of the population to kill people then civilians of the same age and sex. The article only looks at the gross number of soldiers responsible without this critical commentary necessary to reach the conclusions they draw.

I'm not sure what argument you have against his point other then labelling him an 'idiot' which is not very compelling to me.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:09 AM   #7
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Well, I'm both drunk and have english as my second language, so I think that my insults still are legitimate
Actually just an observation and advice. Seeing that you have clarified, let me amend my comment.

Insults regarding intelligence are usually taken more seriously when not provided by a drunk.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:15 AM   #8
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You can never determine when KH is drunk or even if he may be in a perpetual state of inebriation.

His drunken rants match fairly closely to his normally cheery disposition. Its the little endearing qualities...
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:23 AM   #9
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Whatever you guys have to carry on about is pointless. KH is, KH.

The matter at hand is that some soldiers were in **** situations and are having trouble adapting back home. I know plenty of soldiers who were paranoid, sketchy, afraid of large areas now, etc. PTSD, and more names can cover this. They ****ed up, they ****ed up bad, by committing murder. BUT in their defense, they didn't recieve proper treatment. Units do not always supply soldiers a proper support channel to receive help. I saw my psych once when we got back, and it wasn't for another 4 months before I was able to go again. Why? Work, plain and simple. I had a job to do and my bosses didn't want to give us time off to get checked out. Then I got diagnosed with PTSD, after I had sunk into a crap hole of insomnia. I slept very little, very seldom.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:34 AM   #10
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Well, KH compares numbers to ordinary, and that is stupid - even KH should know this
Do you mind explaining yourself, you Danish buffoon?

You disappeared after I pressed you for an explanation of why my comments in the other thread were so obviously stupid. Going to pull the same bullshit here?

Returning soldiers are not particularly violent, at least not by the measure of homicide commission. This is an extremely important comparison to make, as it gives the lie to the inference made by both the article posted as well as the individual who posted it.

Twit.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:56 AM   #11
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You can never determine when KH is drunk or even if he may be in a perpetual state of inebriation.

His drunken rants match fairly closely to his normally cheery disposition. Its the little endearing qualities...
Oh, Ogie. You're my fave.

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Old 07-16-2009, 04:58 AM   #12
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Your an acquired taste KH. The fact that one can't tell when your totally sotted or otherwise means you've got the perfect trollish outlook on life.

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Old 07-16-2009, 05:02 AM   #13
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Maybe we can apply logarithmic regressions to figure out the point of sottedness.
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Old 07-16-2009, 05:11 AM   #14
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The usual idiots seems to have posted
Yeah I noticed. Took about 30 secs this time.

I see Ben is on the idiot side (well duh!).

I feel reassured.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:41 PM   #15
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Nah, I'll save you the effort.


Just call me a tard and put me on ignore please.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:00 PM   #16
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I accept your surrender. Mods, please close this thread.

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Old 07-16-2009, 04:19 PM   #17
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Eventually you and Kuci will get tired of talking at each other.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:29 PM   #18
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Nah, I'll save you the effort.


Just call me a tard and put me on ignore please.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:31 PM   #19
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You are undoubtedly a very smart guy KH. Unfortunately you also happen to be a complete and utter *******. The combination doesn't lead to pleasant interactions.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:39 PM   #20
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I really wish there was somebody left who could at least make it difficult.

It's no fun to win all the time.

Since you can't stand to even contemplate losing, I suspect this expressed sentiment is insincere.

However, in this particular case, you is right. By selecting a small enough sample size anyone can cause alarm bells to seem to ring. However, Americans seem to understand very little about statistics, sample sizes, and relevant conclusions. In this case, the soldiers are the ones getting the bad rap.
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