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Whooo, tough one. On the one hand, like you said, you need to send a message that corruption and (criminal) lies are bad. On the other, we need unity right now. Prosecuting Republicans, even for legitimate offenses, would open a huge can of worms that is perhaps, and unfortunately, best left closed.
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I think that is a very reasonable compromise.
Prosecute anyone who blew off a subpena or ignored a court order and send them to jail, for that. Do it for the clear, obvious things with no legal basis at all for challenging. My gut says "Do the right thing, send these criminals to jail" but that is better than nothing. |
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Originally posted by Swissy
The House and Senate didn't do much about it in the past two years. For good reason, if they did there would be a backlash. They knew it and stayed away. I don't think Obama is that dumb, he pretty much threw the left-wing kook blog-o-sphere types overboard once he had the nomination pretty much sewn up. Those will be the only ones calling for Bush's head. Since Obama doesn't need them anymore, why rile up the rest of America. To send a message to the next President that thinks he's above the law. The GOP impeached Clinton for lying about an affair and suffered a backlash. Now the Dems are afraid to go after people who lied to get us into a stupid war. I think it's unlikely they'll ever manage to pin anything serious on Bush, but some aides could reasonably be prosecuted for various lesser things. Vesayen, did we prosecute Clinton for banging hired help while ignoring terrorism? They did. Senate voted not to remove him from office, there was a trial. |
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Since you have a reading comprehension problem, I removed the apparently confusing passage. Here.
Originally posted by Vesayen Lying about a blowjob is not the same as having ignored subpenas revealing CIA operatives to the media, holding people in endless detention without charging them which the Supreme Court has stated is unconstitutional, violated the geneva convention, filling the justice department with political apointees and firing those who won't corrupt their station for partisan politics. One threatens the very existance of a land ruled by laws and the other constitution. The other, is lying about a blowjob. And you know what? The Republicans tried to impeach the guy who lied about a blowjob. What will I do when Bush is gone? Rejoice and hope the country fixes 8 years of damage. You ask your question as if I am entertained that my country is on the verge of collapse, I am outraged and hoping it changes. That is not a difficult question. |
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
We need to move forward, not look back. I'm gonna try that line the next time I get pulled over by the police. I suspect that won't work for me, and it shouldn't work for the government (and shame on you for suggesting that we should sweep it under the rug for the sake of family peace). In fact, Bush & Co. are responsible for far, far worse crimes, but they aren't alone. The Democratic leadership is complicit in these crimes as well. For Obama to go after Bush, he'd have to go after Reid and Pelosi as well. Furthermore, to go after Bush would also mean deconstructing the imperial presidency, which would mean abandoning the unconstitutional power collected in that office. The Democrats want their hands on that power. They aren't about to destroy it. So humanity and democracy loses. |
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