[DrJonson]

Just read this story about a teenager killed by a 16 year old because he gave him a 'dirty look', the offender gets 'life' apparently but it says he needs to serve a 'minimum of 12 years':

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7548842.stm

How is 12 years life?! It's more like 1/6th of life it would be a disgrace if he got out in 2020 and has robbed that boy and their family forever. There aren't many things I envy about America but their length prison sentences for murderers is one thing I do...

[engideNedmupe]

Might it have something to do with that whole once you become an adult, your youth crimes are thrown out? Doesn't sound like it (since he would be 28).

[gZAhTyWY]

eh they should just hang him
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[finasteridonline]

Regardless of the term served, life can still be life. (either killed inside or screwed up so much you have no life to go back to)

[Dvjkefdw]

Just read this story about a teenager killed by a 16 year old because he gave him a 'dirty look', the offender gets 'life' apparently but it says he needs to serve a 'minimum of 12 years':

That doesn't mean he'll be automatically out of prison in 12 years time - it just means that he'll be eligible for parole then.

[DrJonson]

That doesn't mean he'll be automatically out of prison in 12 years time - it just means that he'll be eligible for parole then.

I'm fully aware of that, but he shouldn't be! If a person killed someone close to you in cold blood and you knew they would be 'eligible' for release in 12 years how would you feel?

[brulpcoersero]

Life = 20 years from what I heard, but if your good you can do 12 years, my uncle did 14 years back in the 70's 80's for a life sentence.

[Dvjkefdw]

I don't know how I would feel but I do know that, as I am presently, I believe human beings deserve the chance to redeem themselves somehow, and in this case, he has 12 years to do so. Should he fail, then it's unlikely parole will be issued and he will remain in prison.

[brulpcoersero]

That's right, for young people like that spending 12 years locked away can help them and maybe change there ways, but I know people who have been locked up and told me it's actually made them more of a criminal because you can learn so much inside and gain so many good contacts.

[MilenaMKB]

eh they should just hang him

You propose executing a juvenile?

[MedicineForUs]

The UK law system is a disgrace, on top of that the law about "smacking" your children is a disgrace too, you not even allowed to disapline your own child anymore, and just now are we seeing the fruits of the governments system, so much crime from young offenders now a days is just insane. BUT on a good note its alot of revenue from fines for the government, There very clever.[thumbdown] Theres just no deterrent from a young person turning out to be a scumbag anymore, and the real meaning of respect, and respect for your fellow human being has been lost to the younger generation.

[gZAhTyWY]

You propose executing a juvenile?

he felt that he could.

im not literally saying to hang him. but he wont learn anything in jail
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[borasolit]

I don't know how I would feel but I do know that, as I am presently, I believe human beings deserve the chance to redeem themselves somehow, and in this case, he has 12 years to do so. Should he fail, then it's unlikely parole will be issued and he will remain in prison.

[no]

I dont care if they did redeem themselves.

Its what they did not what they might not do in future if the British legal system is nice and cushy to them.

Sickens me.

[Marat]

Send him to Old texas to be charged.

[MilenaMKB]

he felt that he could.

im not literally saying to hang him. but he wont learn anything in jail

What do you propose then?

The UK law system is a disgrace, on top of that the law about "smacking" your children is a disgrace too, you not even allowed to disapline your own child anymore, and just now are we seeing the fruits of the governments system, so much crime from young offenders now a days is just insane. BUT on a good note its alot of revenue from fines for the government, There very clever.[thumbdown] Theres just no deterrent from a young person turning out to be a scumbag anymore, and the real meaning of respect, and respect for your fellow human being has been lost to the younger generation.

I don't see how a law that was only passed a few years ago will have had any effect on the upbringing of a person who's a teenager now.

[Fainnamoony]

I do believe that 12 years is just not enough, he'll be my age when he comes out and life is far from over.

[Fdmnrnba]

The UK law system is a disgrace, on top of that the law about "smacking" your children is a disgrace too, you not even allowed to disapline your own child anymore, and just now are we seeing the fruits of the governments system, so much crime from young offenders now a days is just insane. BUT on a good note its alot of revenue from fines for the government, There very clever.[thumbdown] Theres just no deterrent from a young person turning out to be a scumbag anymore, and the real meaning of respect, and respect for your fellow human being has been lost to the younger generation.

Yeah, I don't like the law about not allowing you to smack your children.

Other kids got it easy cos they got smacked, my mum ran after me with a damn bamboo feather duster. Those things bloody killed. And when I hid it, she improvised.

Now look at me, I turned out fine....*twitches*

[gZAhTyWY]

What do you propose then?

well good question. i would think that since someone took someone elses life they shouldnt have the ability to live there. life meaning actual life... no chance to get out. put him to work for the government to help better the city and help him have a some what 'normal' life without actually being free.
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[lalpphilalk]

TBH, I think he should get 50 years at the minimum. I also believe that the majority of people wouldn't redeem themselves and therefore shouldn't get the chance to.

[brulpcoersero]

Yeah, I don't like the law about not allowing you to smack your children.

Other kids got it easy cos they got smacked, my mum ran after me with a damn bamboo feather duster. Those things bloody killed. And when I hid it, she improvised.

Now look at me, I turned out fine....*twitches*

You don't need to hit kids to teach them respect and discipline, if anything that makes them worse in the future, you can easy teach kids respect without using violence which is wrong against children. My friends family who I use to hang around with when I was a Kid, he's got like 5 brothers, his dad is some nutter and his mum isn't much better, any time they did anything wrong, beat them up m8, broom stick round the head or a belt round the body, did it help them? well there all older now and all bloody nutters and crinimals.