Gov. Palin is for abstinence only education, right?
 

If that's her position on it, fair enough. Are there conflicting quotes? I thought there were, but admittedly I didn't care enough to do much checking.

-Arrian

Or did she become ok with condoms to convince people she wasn't a total wingnut fundie in order to get elected in '06?

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-Arrian

I'm thinking being more moderate on social issues isn't exactly something that would help her get elected in a state like Alaska.

It also occurs to me that her precise definition of "explicit" matters here.

This part is entirely fine:

I'm pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. and in fact matches my views to a T.

-Arrian

and it is actually what any sane person would think, but sanity is usually punished hard in politics (edit: comment on previous post)

There's also the "relatively benign" description of condoms. Sounds like it was painful for her to say.

The church doesn't tell you what you can or can't do or believe. Not like it works all that well, if the Catholics I know are any guide... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

-Arrian

Originally posted by Kontiki
Isn't it just watching porn and teaching kids the most effective pickup lines? Because if not, it should be. I once had a sex-ed class that featured a film with unconcealed sex. Not quite "porn", because of the stylistic differences (you know how porn movies typically are) yet also quite unapologetic. The next year the movie was gone, I suspect due complaints by parents. I may have witnessed the apex of liberal education.

Well, given that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant, I think her record on Sex Ed. isn't terribly good. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...smilies/hm.gif

Originally posted by Victor Galis
Well, given that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant, I think her record on Sex Ed. isn't terribly good. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...smilies/hm.gif That's making a log of assumptions. Just because you know about contraceptives and safe sex doesn't mean you automatically practice them.

Originally posted by rah


That's making a log of assumptions. Just because you know about contraceptives and safe sex doesn't mean you automatically practice them. Yup. Intelligence plays into it as well.

One major factor of intelligence is in the genes... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

The thing to take away from the OP is that Palin says different things to different people. She tell one group one thing then a month later she'll tell another group the exact opposite.

Most teenage moms can't read past the fourth grade level, so you're being quite presumptuous. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/mad.gif

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

It's a lot easier for a sane person to lie about being a wingnut fundie than a wingnut fundie to pretend to be sane.

There was an original Star Trek episode about something like that. Fundies may be crazy, but that doesn't necessarily make them stupid - some of them have figured out how to play the game, and play it well.

Whatever. I'm not voting for McCain either way.

-Arrian

Originally posted by Asher


Yup. Intelligence plays into it as well.

One major factor of intelligence is in the genes... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif While it is one factor, there's been millions of smart teenagers over the years that have gotten pregnant. So even though we're talking about a reasonably typical red neck family here, that's still a generalization that might not be true in this case. (yeah, yeah but what are the odds? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif )

Nope.

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Isn't all this energy used to attack Palin kind of stupid and playing into McCain's hands? I think so.

Yeah, but politicians are willing to accept that kind of thing if it achieves there ends. It would take a pretty principled politician to say "Hey, we're not going to play that game". So, basically, when hell freezes over...

Originally posted by Wiglaf
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