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Old 07-05-2008, 06:54 AM   #1
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God i hate people who have there dogs off the lead. i go running along the canal at the abck of my house, couple miles either way, theres always some moron no matter what time of day with there dog off the leash, that either

A.Comes charging at you or
B.The owner has to wrestle with it untill your out of site.

PUT THEM ON THE LEAD YOU ******* MORONS !

Sorry rant over.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:07 AM   #2
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give it a swift kick into the canal, might get you in the papers again though
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:10 AM   #3
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give it a swift kick into the canal, might get you in the papers again though
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:15 AM   #4
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Do you have off-leash parks over there?
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:21 AM   #5
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Do you have off-leash parks over there?
As far as im aware dogs have to be kept on a lead by law. so i should let one bite me up abit before face smashing it then sue the owner.
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:59 PM   #6
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As far as im aware dogs have to be kept on a lead by law. so i should let one bite me up abit before face smashing it then sue the owner.
You're completely wrong there, only dangerous dogs have to be on a leash but all dogs must wear a collar with identity tag. Maybe dogs just dont like you?

When on any enclosed land with sheep all dogs must be on a lead or 'under close control'. If you allow your dog to worry livestock you can be prosecuted and fined, ordered to pay compensation and even have the dog destroyed. Now who's worried? Worrying livestock means attacking or chasing any farm animal or poultry - there does not have to be any contact. This is outlined in the Animals Act 1971 section 9, which also states that the farmer is not liable to compensate the dog’s owner in such circumstances.

Any dog which is not a working dog can be regarded as worrying livestock merely by being off lead or not under close control in a field or enclosure where there are sheep. A landowner could shoot such a dog, if it can be proved that the action was necessary to protect livestock and that it was reported to the police within 48 hours. The dog's owner can then be subject to all the above penalties too - except being shot.
On a right of way your dog does not have to be on a lead but it does have to be 'under close control'. This phrase is not defined but pretty much means that if you are in a field with animals or poultry and your dog will not always come, straight away, when called even when he's chasing things, and then stay there, he could be at risk of being seen to worry animals. So if there is any chance he might go off then the lead is the best option until you are out of the field with livestock in it.
Damage and Injury
If your dog or indeed any animal under your control injures a person or animal or damages property, the owner or person responsible may be liable for damages. This would be a civil claim and not necessarily a criminal offence.

Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 and Dogs Act 1871
Extracts are from the Dangerous Dogs Act unless otherwise indicated.

1. The following dogs, and also cross-bred pit-bulls, are dangerous dogs under the meaning of the Act:
  • Pit Bull Terrier
  • Japanese Tosa
  • Dogo Argentino
  • Fila Braziliero
It is illegal to possess such a dog without a certificate of exemption, which is granted once the dog is neutered, insured, and has a transponder implant. These dogs cannot be "in a public place without being muzzled and ... being securely kept on a lead by a person who is not less than 16 years old."
A public place even includes locked inside a car which is itself in a public place.




2. If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place, or a private place where it is not permitted to be, the owner; and if different, the person for the time being in charge of the dog, is guilty of an offence."A dog shall be regarded as dangerously out of control on any occasion on which there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that it will injure any person, whether or not it actually does so."In the case of Briscoe -v- Shattock QBD 12 October 1998 it was held that a dog could be considered "dangerous" and "not kept under proper control" within the meaning of Section 2 of the Dogs Act 1871, even if the only danger shown was to other dogs, and not to humans. Being dangerous reflected the dog's disposition not his acts.
This applies to any dog, of any breed. The quote from the Act above means that any dog which is a bit lively might commit an offence if not kept under control - this could be your dog too! For example, we understand a farmer was prosecuted and fined under this section of the Act when his aggressive dogs intimidated walkers on a public footpath, even though the dogs were on private land and behind a fence (sorry, no reference to this case).
Dangerous Dogs (Amendment) Act 1997
Collars
The Control of Dogs Order 1930 (as amended) requires that every dog in a public place must wear a collar with the owner's name and address on it. The exemptions are when the dog is being used for sporting purposes, driving or tending livestock, destruction of 'vermin' or is one of a pack of hounds. edit:- I'd like to add, yes I do walk my dog off a lead but only in safe places. He is trained to walk to my side but occasionally he might bark at a passer by in which case I instantly put him back on his lead.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:18 PM   #7
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They do the same down our cycle track (converted train lines) had one the other year really have ago @ me so i stopped, pulled my mini hi-pressure pump off and smacked the mutt on the nose as hard as i could & it went of yelping. Then i turned my attention to the owner who was an ignorant sod who thought that the path was his own personal space, after a heated exchange and me threatening to shove my fist down his throat he backed off

To his day he gives me a wide berth every time he sees me.

P.S. yes im a animal lover and felt pretty bad hitting the dog but when the stupid thing is hell bent of having you off you just gotta do what you've gotta do.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:20 AM   #8
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I used to ride my bike on cycle paths a lot when I was at uni and had a couple of bad encounters with dogs.

The worst one was when I was on my MTB, I went off the side of the cycle path to try and find some nice off road bits. One of the bits I road down lead to the end of someone's back garden, when I realised this I turned round straight away and rode back. Then I heard this barking behind me and this dog chasing after me. I got up onto the cycle path and accelerated up to 25-30mph+ before the dog backed off! It was right along side me until I got up to some considerable speed.

The other one was on one of those shared cycle/pedestrian paths. It was very busy and this dog was off the lead and ran out on front of me, had to slam on the brakes and nearly ran it over!

I don't really like dogs very much....! Some of their owners are bloody stupid as well.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:40 AM   #9
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Never really liked dogs - was scared shitless of them when I was a kid - but the thing that pisses me of about some dog owners is the way they let their pets **** all over the place and don't pick it up, sometimes right in the middle of the path! [cursing]
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:47 AM   #10
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How about running past the dog and not looking back at how the person struggles with the dog?
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:59 AM   #11
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How about running past the dog and not looking back at how the person struggles with the dog?
Id want to know if its coming to bite my ass to tell the truth.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:34 AM   #12
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God i hate people who have there dogs off the lead. i go running along the canal at the abck of my house, couple miles either way, theres always some moron no matter what time of day with there dog off the leash, that either

A.Comes charging at you or
B.The owner has to wrestle with it untill your out of site.

PUT THEM ON THE LEAD YOU ******* MORONS !

Sorry rant over.
Hehe, well there the people who don't train their dogs. I never put my dogs on a lead, I teach them everything, they know the roads very well and if theres someone running past or riding or even a cat or a dog across the road they won't do nothing because they have been trained properly.(The big one is just like a human really lol) I ride a minimum of 12 miles a day with them, take them from my countryside home to the city which is 15 miles crossing all the busy main roads without no leads once or twice a week. Am in the countryside 80% of the time so their in the fields, hills and woods most of the time their out but I have to go to the city every now and again and use to live in the city.

You get allot of people who don't train their dogs, you get people who get a pitbull or staffy as well as other dogs and can't control it, I've taken my dog or dogs(got 2 but get my sister to look after the other one allot) to parks in the city many of times with my dogs off the lead and then some pitbull comes running over to attack my 52kg lion dog lol, you would think a pitbull or staffy would pretty much beat me dog as they are evil nasty killer dogs if they have not been TRAINED but my dog is so big he just pins them to the floor and ****s them up, if the owner of the other dog don't grab their dog away, and most of the time they panic and don't know what to do then am on my own having to pull my dog away from a raging pitpull not in control, that pisses me off the most. Allot of people don't have big dogs who can pretty much control a pitbull etc, they just have little dogs or really nice mellow dog and a raging pitbull just runs over to it and rags it to bits cause the owners haven't got them in control, same goes with people like you running past or people riding they just chase you cause the dogs have not been trained or disciplined but mainly their owner not showing them who is the boss. My dogs would never hurt anyone without my permission or if someone came to attack me of course they would protect me lol. Ff theres another dog they normally want to check it out and probably play if their in the countryside or in the park, they will never normally just attack a dog, the only times they would fight a dog is if the other dog attacks them, so their defending them selfs really.

Rant over.

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Old 09-04-2008, 10:45 AM   #13
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For some strange and magical reason, the dogs here in Berkeley are really well behaved. It is not uncommon to see dogs without leashes walking on the sidewalks far away from their owners. These dogs know how to stay on track and not to bug strangers. Very well behaved dogs!

I heard that in Russia they are having stray dog problems. Now people are carrying around dog food and sausages to throw at the dogs so that it won't attack them
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:42 PM   #14
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For some strange and magical reason, the dogs here in Berkeley are really well behaved. It is not uncommon to see dogs without leashes walking on the sidewalks far away from their owners. These dogs know how to stay on track and not to bug strangers. Very well behaved dogs!

I heard that in Russia they are having stray dog problems. Now people are carrying around dog food and sausages to throw at the dogs so that it won't attack them
LMFAO !!![thumbup]
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:47 PM   #15
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I got up onto the cycle path and accelerated up to 25-30mph+ before the dog backed off! It was right along side me until I got up to some considerable speed. lol that post reminds me when i was a kid around 12-15 when i had a mountain bike, i used to hate those dogs that tried to attack your wheels, you would be riding along quite happy then a dog would bolt out from nowhere and try to attack your rear wheel only stopping when it realises contact with the wheel = pains.

there used to be this one big dog im not sure what it was but it used to always try to hump the kids lol. i have no idea whos dog it was but it was funny aslong as it wasnt happening to me, it was a big dog aswell that were able to knock people over
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