[ireleda]

Originally posted by fed1943
And the only people that has a good chance to be the seed of this
is the USA. The during the time of the generation of your grandparents, yes for sure, but not in the current climate.

Why?

Because you became nothing more than what the Brits were in the 19th century.

[freddystone]

Well, I meant war as in disputes, ceasefires, etc.

For example, there is an area in the ocean between Australia and Indonesia that contains a lot of oil, the two countries are disputing over who should have it. This to me is a war, perhaps a "soft-war", this sort of competition can be made redundant in the far future, where we can all work for each other, rather than against.

[cepAceryTem]

Disagreements, disputes, resouces, etc, lead to wars, its bad enough that two countries have to quarrel over something.

[aLZ9zKsO]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
Well, I meant war as in disputes, ceasefires, etc.

For example, there is an area in the ocean between Australia and Indonesia that contains a lot of oil, the two countries are disputing over who should have it. This to me is a war, perhaps a "soft-war", this sort of competition can be made redundant in the far future, where we can all work for each other, rather than against. That's probably not "light sweet" crude, not from that part of the world.

[k5wTvu9f]

Why should the US have any input into a democratic world government with principles of justice and liberty when they can barely live up to those principles written into their own constitution?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
(and a thousand other urls on this Act.)

I can think of a few hundred other reasons, not the least of which the poor environmental record, abuse of human rights, inability to obey international law and a legal system which rewards stupidity and irresponsible behavior.

Personally, I believe modern Europe is a far better model for a world government.

[tutkarussia]

One only has to open their eyes and look around the world to realize that people can't get along well enough to be under one political system. The only way humans unite is if there is an outside threat. No coming together in joyous harmony to unite our common dreams but instead as a response to an external threat.

[gortusbig]

Originally posted by Ninot
I think I agree with Ben

Obama pandering as the agent of change does not make him a valid candidate alone. Showing how the change would be a good thing would make him worthy.

Now that being said, I still prefer him over McCain personally, however I completely agree with Ben that voting for him because he's racially mixed is in itself a form of racism.
+1

[simmons latex mattress]

Originally posted by C0ckney


i think the EU today is a perfect example of why there will never be one world government. Ahhh, but what if a United Europe (eventually) turns out to be a good idea? (currently the EU is in a bad place because of the Irish no, but perhaps a future organisatio)

You can't begin to realise what a good thing this is for Eastern Europe, the EU funds are forcing goverments to become more efficent and less cleptocratic. EU human rights and environmental standars are the best in the world.


I somethimes think that the EU would work better without the big western countries (especially France and Britain). They are the ones who haven't gotten over the fact that they are irrelevant in the global order. Small countries, rich or poor are used to that idea. They also realise how helpless they are individually to affect the global economy.

[RotsLoado]

Lets say that you Brits haven't really put your money where your mouth is... literally

For the rest, if you don't agree with a general course taken, please get out of the way of those who do.

[skydaypat]

3/4ths to the EU?

You've just made the case for the UK.

'The problem is that the EU hasn't a clue about westminster.

[Smeaphvalialm]

Originally posted by C0ckney


presumably you'd like france and holland to leave as well...

i think that a lot of continental europeans, especially in the 'founder' countries, need to realise that it's not the 1960s anymore and get over the idea that they own the EU. it's precisely this sort of attitude that provokes hostility towards the europe and not just in britain. with 27 countries, it should not be a huge surprise to discover that there are many different views on the purpose of the EU and its future direction. these views need to be taken into account and respected, rather than dismissed in the arrogant way that we so often see from some quarters. I think we need to have a two-speed Europe.


The Euro thing is two speed and it works, why not approach the rest of the Union in the same way?

[Dxwlxqvg]

Originally posted by dannubis


Bingo ! So, ehh, why aren't we doing this?

[poispanna]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


So, ehh, why aren't we doing this? Gutless useless politicians ?