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Old 12-27-2007, 04:34 PM   #1
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Default Benezir Bhutto Dies in Attack!
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:48 PM   #2
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Well, that sucks.
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:56 PM   #3
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for Mrs Bhutto.




for the people of Pakistan



for the region and the world.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:02 PM   #4
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Originally posted by lord of the mark


for Mrs Bhutto.




for the people of Pakistan



for the region and the world. The upcoming elections are looking really scary right now. Sharif can't run (his party can, though, of course), Bhutto is dead, and Musharraf is hated.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:03 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Lorizael
One thing I like about the US is, at least we don't usually kill our political candidates. Quite, you usually kill the guy in charge rather than the candidate.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:10 PM   #6
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Originally posted by TheStinger
Ok then,

who did it- wild speculation only please Either A. one of the Islamist elements (AQ, Taliban, or anti-Musharraf elements of the ISI)
or B. Musharaf and pro-Musharaf elements of Pakistani security

If the latter, a huge mistake. I dont think Musharaf will survive this.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:48 PM   #7
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Moderate muslims, where are you at?

Well their leader in Pakistan was just killed... so I assume a bunch of them were just in Rawalpindi.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:59 PM   #8
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Well their leader in Pakistan was just killed... Oh Imran, you are so much smarter than this...
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:01 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Oh Imran, you are so much smarter than this... Certainly a very large portion of Pakistans moderate elements are in the PPP, and Bhutto WAS the leader of the PPP, even if many party members were growing discontented.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:07 PM   #10
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She was corrupt and had a history of using violence when it suited her. Still, she was probably Pakistan's best hope

She was going to be my #1 pick in teh dead pool, BTW.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:12 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Patroklos
Oh Imran, you are so much smarter than this...

Bhutto wasn't the face of moderates in Pakistan? Well, I guess we learn something new in your world every day .
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:20 PM   #12
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lol is all i can say about the situation, it's alot more interesting then any fiction
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:27 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Oerdin


Do we know it was Islamists? Since Bhutto was way ahead in the polls leading up to next month's election it seems Musharraf also has a motive. see post #15
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:28 PM   #14
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This is ****ed up.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:37 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Pakistanis are usually muslim, muslims are not usually Pakistanis. so this

"Moderate muslims, where are you at? Are you going to come out now? No? Sit back with your head it the sand some more?"

was aimed at non-Pakistani muslims? WTF? You want, Algerians, to you know, go out in the street and protest the death of a pol theyve hardly heard of, in a country far away, to show theyre not aligned with the radical Islamists who may have been involved?

Hint - one of the things that distinguishes moderate muslims, is that they are NOT pan-Islamist, and are NOT as focused on whats going on in other muslim countries.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:48 PM   #16
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Originally posted by Oerdin


Do we know it was Islamists? Since Bhutto was way ahead in the polls leading up to next month's election it seems Musharraf also has a motive. It could be Musharraf of course, but suicide bombings are more islamist MO...
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #17
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:52 PM   #18
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I don't get this seeming need for moderate Muslims to apologize for every act of terrorism committed by their extremist breathern.

If you are talking about condemning. Well, as far as I know, Gordon Brown hasn't even yet condemed the murder, so maybe he's sticking his head in the sand too (let us forget its only been a few hours since the news came out)?

Though, if it makes you happy, Iran came out against it:

[q=CNN.com]In Iran, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said in a statement, "We hope the Pakistani government will identify and bring to justice those behind such a criminal act and restore tranquility to the country." [/q]
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:04 PM   #19
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Well, there is speculation that now the election on Jan 8 will have to be postponed, so that's good news for both Musharraf and Al Queda.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:12 PM   #20
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It seems that Musharraf is at least a little culpable in the fact that everyone seems to be talking about an intentional lack of adequate security.
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