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Old 12-04-2007, 10:24 PM   #21
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"Acting morally" != "Universal moral system"

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Old 12-04-2007, 10:34 PM   #22
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Originally posted by Vesayen

How did a Jewish vice president ACTUALLY win the election in 2000,
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:38 PM   #23
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Originally posted by Vesayen
Obama's familly(African side) imigrated long, long, long after slavery ended. That's irrelevent. It's the progression of society's acceptance of various groups that is the point.

Just as the hypothetical Atheist/Agnostic President wouldn't have had to have lived in a time when Atheist/Agnostics had no shot at being President to illustrate a progression.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:53 PM   #24
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hell I don't even think the U.S. will have a woman prez. I hear Hilary's poll numbers are dropping because she's a woman.

What the hell is wrong with american voters? I don't plan on voting for Hilary, but not because she's a woman. But because she's a phony.
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:15 AM   #25
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Originally posted by Dis
hell I don't even think the U.S. will have a woman prez. I hear Hilary's poll numbers are dropping because she's a woman.

What the hell is wrong with american voters? I don't plan on voting for Hilary, but not because she's a woman. But because she's a phony. At least Guliani isn't phony. He is just evil.

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Old 12-05-2007, 01:31 AM   #26
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He has lied and reversed half his policies and views since he started running for president.

He supports torture and shitting on our constitution.

I was ROOTING for him to run before he ran. If you asked me 2 years ago if I would vote for him in 2008, I would say I would, with enthusiasim.

After he announced, I quickly changed my views. He is as much of a phony as Hillary.
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:48 AM   #27
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Originally posted by Lorizael


You don't vote for politicians? Yeah I figured someone would bring this up. Yes most (if not all) politicians are phonies. You could say I support them until their phoniness is brought to light. Although what that really boils down to, is I vote for politicians who hide their motivations really well, and aren't actually honest in their platform. But I like to think there's a slim chance they are actually honest.
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:05 AM   #28
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I agree. I think the earlier guess of 50 years is way too short.

Vesayen - Virginia. From San Diego.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:36 AM   #29
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So "ever again" would have been better?
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:47 AM   #30
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Originally posted by Vesayen
Obama's familly(African side) imigrated long, long, long after slavery ended.

His extended familly also had some southern slave holders in it.

Irony eh?
Not really no
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