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Old 06-21-2007, 07:32 PM   #1
tramadolwithall

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Default malfeasance in the workplace
step 1: Get into the confidence of Albert. If he is going to be promoted despite being the way he is the he obviously knows something (or maybe has dirt on someone). Thus, become his friend.

step 2: Joke about how your wife knows nothing about your girlfriend.

step 3: Tell him that the name of one your girlfriends is Francesca and that she works at the company in whatchamacallit department

step 4: Let him hit you

... tada!
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:46 PM   #2
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Honestly self, I don't think you should do anything. I don't think anything happened here that is wrong, legally speaking.

It depends partially on the conversation itself, and whether it was intended to be private and not overheard; and exactly how explicit it was. Sexual harassment here would be a fairly hard thing to push (well, in the US anyway) since he wasn't talking to you and presumably didn't intend for you to hear his comments; unless they were extremely explicit (say, graphically describing sexual acts) then I would generally expect that nothing would come as a result of it other than a reprimand to not discuss such things at the workplace (unless Canadian law treats this very differently than US).

What is your relationship to him? Are you a coworker or a supervisor? I couldn't really tell. Do you have input on his promotion?

To me it sounds like the only relevant thing is that he is a misogynist, which is not something you probably should bring up. Not that it's not relevant, but unless you're someone with input on the hiring or promotion decisions, I don't think this is a big enough deal to justify speaking up. He's an ass, but there are a lot of asses out there, and you'd be surprised how often the bosses are well aware of these details. Particularly if you're at the same level as he is, and could be seen as going for the same promotion (even if you're not), you would look somewhat like someone just trying to sabotage a coworker; which never looks good. Unless he's done something a bit worse than this, I don't think it would be good for your career to complain.

It also sounds to me that some of your complaint is coming from cultural differences. The rosary thing is cultural; you are canadian, if I understand correctly, while he is puerto rican. It is a common thing in certain parts of the latin american world to wear a rosary as a necklace, to show your devotion to the Virgin Mary. Or at least I saw it quite frequently, when I lived in New Mexico, so I'd guess it's fairly common.

That said, I don't care about cultural bias when it comes to treating women properly; but it is not relevant to the workplace whether he considers it correct or not to cheat on his wife. Unless he has that same conversation with you, and you fulfill the other elements of flagrant sexual harassment (ie, ask him to stop talking about it, and he doesn't), I don't think it is relevant to the workplace.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:59 PM   #3
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i'm american, and have been born and raised in New York, snoopy. i am a coworker in relation to him, and the only way i can influence his promotion is by having him written up. cultural differences aside, he's catholic, and on a rudimentary level, so am i.

a rosary is not a f*cking necklace, period, end of story. he could wear ten thousand crucifixes and whatever else have you. were he muslim he could cry "ALLAH O AKBAR!" every hour on the hour and i would defend him. what smites me is his lack of respect and integrity to his own faith. the bottom line is that doing such a thing, as wearing a rosary as a necklace/jewelry is blasphemic and disrespectful to put it mildly, how can he have proper respect and consideration to people who would be under him?

i've considered cultural differences and found them a moot point. he's been here long enough to know better; he just doesn't give a damn. i honestly don't care what opinions he holds outside of work. it's rightly his business. i feel that it is wholly inapropriate that he express the previously stated opinions in the workplace.

i don't take kindly to being made to seem a lesser person for putting the wife on the pedestal that she deserves.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:17 PM   #4
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For a price, Albert will fall down the stairs.
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