[uneniaPhenits]

I'm getting ready to make a move...tell me the best states and the cities in them you find most attractive. Factor in cost, mild winters, ability to grow things and recreation.

The middle of the country is a disaster so it's out.
Severe winters are out.

[Efonukmp]

When I finally get off my lazy, paranoid ass, and have enough money I'll be moving too. I feel like I'm getting closer, but I've been saying I want to move for a couple years now.

Based on my research I wanted to check out South/South East Idaho (Twin Falls/Pocatello.) If that doesn't work you can always live with Mr. Bill in SW Nebraska.

[putza]

Winters are out? You know zombies freeze solid don't you?

[Ibrattnofich]

EE- this is a question very close to my own issues. If you could take your job anywhere in the world and continue to get your US based salary, where would you go?

Leaving the tri-state area is a tough one for me. Too much family...but sometimes you have to lead and let them follow or get out of the way.

If only I liked cold weather this would be an easy call. But I don't like severe winters either. I like water, that's a definite and it needs to be close.

Tough tough call man. Believe me, I feel ya on wtf to go?

[24MurinivaMak]

EE- this is a question very close to my own issues. If you could take your job anywhere in the world and continue to get your US based salary, where would you go?

Leaving the tri-state area is a tough one for me. Too much family...but sometimes you have to lead and let them follow or get out of the way.

If only I liked cold weather this would be an easy call. But I don't like severe winters either. I like water, that's a definite and it needs to be close.

Tough tough call man. Believe me, I feel ya on wtf to go?

For me, work is not an issue. I'm looking for quality of life, a quaint smaller city/town with lower home prices and low property taxes.
I feel like I have a small window to make this move to get out and in to another home before things change or the shtf. I'm staying in the US.
I would like to be near lakes, rivers and mountains.

[mikajuise]

For me, work is not an issue. I'm looking for quality of life, a quaint smaller city/town with lower home prices and low property taxes.
I feel like I have a small window to make this move to get out and in to another home before things change or the shtf. I'm staying in the US.
I would like to be near lakes, rivers and mountains.

I hope you are given some great ideas because we share some similar thoughts.

[Stoniaanapy]

The Ozarks.

[neniajany]

The Ozarks.

Agreed, kinda thin on the jobs but pure eye candy and made for scooters that like twisty roads. Several of the kind if you run off the road, its a long trip bouncing down to the bottom of the hollow!

[f6HLLFcw]

This free country should be on your radar…

[allachakb]

Somewhere in the Verde Valley.

[vosteglog]

warm weather brings people,especially browns like cockroaches. to find a warm predominantly white area means waay high real estate prices/taxes.
i chose wyoming (th northwest part) because:
NO st income tax ... almost all white (for now)...
no gun laws concealed carry or otherwise.
like minded fvk the feds mentality everywhere.
more elk than people
more cattle than people
tons of rivers lakes streams all pure, none polluted.
literally more millions of acres of wilderness than we could explore in a lifetime.

it gets cold, but its a dry cold...nothing compared to the midwest .
jmho.

[riverakathy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulaski,_Tennessee

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Pulows...vation_shelter

[Faigokilix]

Somewhere in the Verde Valley.

That's where I would go...

[ImmimiFruff]

West Virginia. (I might be biased)

Closeish to "stuff" on the east coast that you may want to do/vacation to and you can drive instead of fly. Low population, Mostly white, good people (a little redneck). Cheap houses and low taxes. For example the house we bought last year (built in 1993) is 1120 sqft (with a full basement not included) so 2240 total living area with 18 acres. Paid $88.5k, Property taxes are $500/yr and we now have the "farm" tax rate so our taxes will be $200/yr as long as we can show $1000 in "farm products" per year. (We did hay from 2.5 acres...350 sq bales @ $3 each = $1050 the trick is you dont actually have to SELL them, just produce them and value what they are worth to YOU)

Not so freaking cold and not so freaking hot....right in the middle. Can get down to 0 or sub0 for a few days per winter, but not harsh...
Zone 5-6 depending on where in the state so most things grow just fine (citrus cannot survive the winter outside)

Lots of "recreation" here if you like redneck recreation. I can walk out my back door and go shooting, drinking, 4 wheeling etc. Mountain biking in popular in the state (plenty of mountains...) as is white water rafting down the New River. Lots of fishing lakes if that is your thing and big reseviors suitable for high-speed boating/tubing/skiing. Snow skiing also is available in the winter time, again with the mountains.

Decent wages for blue collar jobs (Oil and gas and coal mining) if that is your thing.

Not drought conditions like in the midwest. I've gotten plenty of rain this summer. Just right actually, didn't even need to water my garden after getting it established in the spring.

Castle Doctrine

Cons:
vehicle "saftey" inspections piss me off. Forces you to go to a garage once a year to have some asshole tell you your "oil cooling lines" (which my truck doesn't even have...) need replaced and you will fail the inspection unless you do it. I took it to another garage and they passed it with no issues. Just annoying. No emissions testing though, just petty stuff like not enough tread left on the tires so you have to buy new ones, etc...They usually try to get you on "bad wheel bearings" because they can fail you for that...and they're cheap parts but expensive to replace. Its a state sponsored bailout to mechanics/garages IMO.
Need CCW to conceal carry, $90 tribute to the sheriff to get it, plus a fee to "reprint" if you move counties (tribute to the new sheriff)
Democrats control most aspects of the government of the state (but we know it doesn't matter if red or blue).

[Gofthooxdix]

warm weather brings people,especially browns like cockroaches. to find a warm predominantly white area means waay high real estate prices/taxes.
i chose wyoming (th northwest part) because:
NO st income tax ... almost all white (for now)...
no gun laws concealed carry or otherwise.
like minded fvk the feds mentality everywhere.
more elk than people
more cattle than people
tons of rivers lakes streams all pure, none polluted.
literally more millions of acres of wilderness than we could explore in a lifetime.

it gets cold, but its a dry cold...nothing compared to the midwest .
jmho.

Does being right under a super volcano scare you at all?

[teodaschwartia]

Does being right under a super volcano scare you at all?

Is this the reason for EE_'s apparent fear of central U.S.?

Have you seen the super volcano?

I'm of the opinion we should run head strong precautionary into fear.

[ProomoSam]

I would be thinking more along the lines of where out side of USA....................

[xanaxist]

I would be thinking more along the lines of where out side of USA....................

Maybe, but people in general when gathered in any large number are tribal. As an example all you have to look at is town rivalry against other towns.

High school football for one and many other examples we have all witnessed in our life's if one took the time to see it.

As said by others if one moves to another country you can take it to the bank you will be the outsider by some no matter how long you live there. And if the smelly stuff does hit the fan, you can count on it that the locals will view outsiders as fair targets overall.

It can be said that it is easier to do bad things to someone you do not know, than to someone you do know, and that applies even here in the states. In both cases moving to another country, or state here, the key is making friends and gaining their RESPECT! Anything less will probably in time make you a victim. It is all basic human nature, for the good and the bad.

[truportodfa]

High school football for one and many other examples we have all witnessed in our life's if one took the time to see it.

I'm gonna have to block that kick, as a few bumps & bruises or turned to be an outcast,

is in some turns far better than being slowly eaten to death by your own kind.

Most of the time the home team only ends up ruining their own field and reputation.

[deethythitoth]

Is this the reason for EE_'s apparent fear of central U.S.?

Have you seen the super volcano?

I'm of the opinion we should run head strong precautionary into fear.