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Old 09-05-2012, 03:16 AM   #1
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Default Can you school me on Shocks?
Hey Guys,

I need to learn about shocks for a 2004 Nissian Titan, with a 6 inch lift, I have been reading but I need it to be more cut and dry, black and white... I should say, ( because I am thick)

I can hear the front end shocks banging, so I am not driving that truck, do I have to get shocks all the way around? They have been on there for about 5 years, but I don't drive that truck often only when its rainy or really muddy, how long do shocks go? How do you tell for sure its the shocks? what are the best one s to get ...these say pro comp ES9000's, (I think my foreman can put them on) Do you have to compress the springs to put them on?( I dont think so)

anyhow any info would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks guys!
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:22 AM   #2
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Possibly but most likely not. Depends on condition of rears. Lifetime depends on usage and road/weather conditions. Sorry, I've no exp. w/ Rancho ES9000's. Yes, springs will need compressed. Good luck!

P.S. You might want to search a Titan forum for direct correlation?
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:22 AM   #3
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5 years seems sort of short unless that truck is being driven really hard. Can not help you much, the front if need to be compressed to install sounds like McPherson struts/shocks. I may be wrong, been a while since I have messed with them, but if you replace them do it all around OR in pairs of front or on the back.

You may be able to just replace just the bad one. Have someone check and see just what is banging, it maybe something else?

Others can help better than me I thinky!
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:24 AM   #4
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Hey Guys,

I need to learn about shocks for a 2004 Nissian Titan, with a 6 inch lift, I have been reading but I need it to be more cut and dry, black and white... I should say, ( because I am thick)

I can hear the front end shocks banging, so I am not driving that truck, do I have to get shocks all the way around? They have been on there for about 5 years, but I don't drive that truck often only when its rainy or really muddy, how long do shocks go? How do you tell for sure its the shocks? what are the best one s to get ...I think those are Rancho ES9000's, (I think my foreman can put them on) Do you have to compress the springs to put them on?( I dont think so)

anyhow any info would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks guys!
First let me say that I am not familiar with the front end set up on the Titans. But I would say a lot of it depends on your lift, you may have had a component fail and without knowing what kind of lift you had there is no way to know. Do you have any more details on the suspension components?
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:01 AM   #5
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I would be looking at lift components first as the source of the noise. Aftermarket lifts are notorious for coming loose or breaking, regardless of manufacturer.

Shocks are generally just along for the ride... coil spring compression is not usually necessary, but you will want to support the suspension when R&Ring them.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:03 AM   #6
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Zap, this will be the first time that I make a DEMAND that someone listen to me.

I had those piece of shit Ranchos shocks, Rancho etc makes decent suspension systems, they make horrible shocks.

I did a TON of research on shocks and the Bilstein 5100 series are awesome. I have a 6 inch lift on the Dodge with 37 inch tires and the Bilsteins ride like a Mercedes.

Get the Bilstein 5100's an you can thank me later.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:13 AM   #7
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I am listening General, but now I am wondering if its something else with the lift kit. So I am going to try to explain what I am feeling hearing.

Ok, get in and start driving, hit a little bump... bang, sounds like the tire is bouncing up and down all willy nily , I had one of the guys drive it and he thought is was the shocks banging, we took the tire off and everything looks good, nothing is loose, bearings are good, everything is tight? I don't know.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:14 AM   #8
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are you getting lots of "bump-steer"?
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:18 AM   #9
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Zap what's the mileage?

What's the mileage since the lift?

What color are the shocks? If they're white, they're cheap ass lift shocks that come with the system
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:20 AM   #10
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Check your ball joints!

Old test for shocks, push down on the hood near the tires, the truck should only bounce once or so. If shocks are bad that side will seem to float , (hard to describe) Need large person or several to do on heavy duty truck. (thinky?)

But ball joints will bang if hitting bumps, jack the truck up so the tire is off the ground,(safely) and try shaking the tire/wheel up and down

http://www.ehow.com/about_5438152_ca...-problems.html

http://www.ehow.com/list_6065793_sym...-problems.html
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:24 AM   #11
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LOL General, 102,000, I don't know since the lift prolly 50K , yep they are white and say pro-comp es 9000.

and I am so ignorant, a friend of mines husband can prolly look/listen to it as he built his own 4x4 jeep, and just got back from a 4x4 party in the Sierrra's. thank you!
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:12 AM   #12
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Dogman while I agree with you, it really depends on hitting shit. She's got an IFS system so it's tough to diagnose without having the truck in front of me, and I'm not a mechanic, but I do know suspension systems.

Zap have your friend put a jack under the cross member and lift up one side of the front the end. Not too much but an inch or so, and put a crowbar under the tire and lift up to see what the ball joints do. Is there's a lot a play/give. With IFS, mileage, and a suspension lift, my guess it's shocks. Most lifts come with ok/shitty shocks.

Zap you do whatever you want, but that's my guess. Get some Bilsteins 5100 series models and you'll be fine.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:26 AM   #13
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general, when you're right, you're right.
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:00 AM   #14
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Zap, I had a '04 Titan 4X4 quad cab. It was bought back under California's Lemon Law. Six front brake jobs; three in the back. Rear end went out driving away from a parking lot. It was replaced with a new rear end with the Al diff cover. There were othr problems, but the weirdest was that the rear shackle unraveled. I missed if you said front or rear but If the bed is making noise, look there.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:41 PM   #15
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My first thought would be ball joints as well.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:44 PM   #16
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Lift kits = nothing but trouble. If I were you, I would convert the truck back to stock and sell that junk and fat tires to some kid that thinks it's cool.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:33 PM   #17
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Lift kits = nothing but trouble. If I were you, I would convert the truck back to stock and sell that junk and fat tires to some kid that thinks it's cool.
I would agree, I hated dealing with lift kits when I was wrenching (so I didn't).

However, I have seen GoD's truck, and it appears to be done right, and if he says it performs well, then it does. He is right about the Ranchos (junk)

That suspension needs to be fully inspected by someone that knows how to do it... being a driveability tech, I never even considered myself competent enough. I hated suspension work.

Check those ball joints! GoD's post 12 explains perfectly how to do it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:37 PM   #18
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Lift kits = nothing but trouble. If I were you, I would convert the truck back to stock and sell that junk and fat tires to some kid that thinks it's cool.
Nothing wrong with lift kits provided you get a good one and have it installed by someone who knows WTF they are doing. Our new work truck is an '05 ford quad cab with 6" lift and 37" tires. It needs shocks up front but otherwise handles like a dream.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:54 PM   #19
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Nothing wrong with lift kits provided you get a good one and have it installed by someone who knows WTF they are doing. Our new work truck is an '05 ford quad cab with 6" lift and 37" tires. It needs shocks up front but otherwise handles like a dream.
A "good lift kit" does nothing to solve the problems of driveshaft angles and high center of gravity. I use 4 wheel drive on a daily basis. The only modification on any of my five 4x4 vehicles is replacing aspect ratio 70 tires with 75's. Fat tires help in sand and bottomless mud, otherwise they are a liability.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:08 PM   #20
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there are spacers etc for just this problem...typically they are only required when lifting a vehicle more than 3 inches. anything over that and you start needing extra parts like adapters and spacers, etc.
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