[socialkiiii]

there are spacers etc for just this problem...typically they are only required when lifting a vehicle more than 3 inches. anything over that and you start needing extra parts like adapters and spacers, etc.

Tapered axle spacers solve the problem of driveshaft angle on the rear axle, but not the transmission and transfer case yokes. Besides, both yokes should be on the same plane. Ideal driveshaft angularity is between 2 and 7 degrees with both yokes paralel.

[Les Allen]

Thanks all for the help, (I think it is just shocks?)

I got in the bed of the truck and jumped up and down and I heard the noise, What's his name can't look at it til next week but I will report the findings!

[Natashasuw]

So was the noise in the back? Most here thought it was from the front end. If in the back of the truck that is a whole different bowl of gumbo!

[Guaranano]

Tapered axle spacers solve the problem of driveshaft angle on the rear axle, but not the transmission and transfer case yokes. Besides, both yokes should be on the same plane. Ideal driveshaft angularity is between 2 and 7 degrees with both yokes paralel.

you're absolutely correct hoarder, however, a competent builder could easily fabricate new mounts to allow trans and t-case to be properly aligned. problem solved...

...high center of gravity can be compensated for with outset rims...

[treawittelf]

So was the noise in the back? Most here thought it was from the front end. If in the back of the truck that is a whole different bowl of gumbo!

I hear it on the passengers side and in the back too.

[Retapleapse]

I hear it on the passengers side and in the back too.

Where is your muffler? Tail pipe? Have one of the guys get under and shake them, check the mountings.

[PharmACT]

you're absolutely correct hoarder, however, a competent builder could easily fabricate new mounts to allow trans and t-case to be properly aligned. problem solved...

Transmission and transfer case yokes exit parallel to the crankshaft. If angles are in excess of 7 degrees, the builder would have to lower the engine, transmission and transfer case several inches.
...high center of gravity can be compensated for with outset rims... But the "go anywhere" capability would be decreased because the vehicle would be wider and the durability of spindles and wheel/axle bearings decreased due to the leverage imposed against them by the offset wheels..

[Cengaeas]

Transmission and transfer case yokes exit parallel to the crankshaft. If angles are in excess of 7 degrees, the builder would have to lower the engine, transmission and transfer case several inches.But the "go anywhere" capability would be decreased because the vehicle would be wider and the durability of spindles and wheel/axle bearings decreased due to the leverage imposed against them by the offset wheels..

so what if you went say 3" susp. lift and 4" body lift... no spacers etc., (under 3") , and the 4" body? that would allow for larger tire sizes and greater wheel travel. the HCOG would be minimal and easily compensated for with slight outset on the rims, and angle change would be within tolerance, would it not?

[finasteridonline]

so what if you went say 3" susp. lift and 4" body lift... no spacers etc., (under 3") , and the 4" body? that would allow for larger tire sizes and greater wheel travel. the HCOG would be minimal and easily compensated for with slight outset on the rims, and angle change would be within tolerance, would it not?

How much angularity could be calculated by drawing the entire drive train out with a piece of chaulk on a concrete slab and using a protractor. That's how we did it when we shortened frames on semi trucks. A 4" body lift would mean lengthening the steering column and wiring and brake lines among other things. All this for bigger tires which will change the gearing, IOW first and reverse will be geared so high you will do a lot of clutch feathering if it has a manual tranny. Driving a tall vehicle means better visibility, but on rough roads it means being thrown left and right with every bump.

If you're compromising that many design factors for larger tires, you have to ask if you want the tires for looks or performance. Taller tires are beneficial, wider tires usually not.

Decades ago I was influenced by Jew-car magazines and the shiny car materialism they inspired. 90% of modifications people do just don't pan out when you do a cost/benefit analysis. All my 4x4 vehicles are ugly and basically stock. I love the way they perform.

Sorry for the derail, Zap.

[Lt_Apple]

No worries Hoarder, I learn alot from all you guys !

[citalopram]

Dont forget to check your sway bar links, they attach the sway bar from the suspension to the frame.




just looked this up... http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59779

[Dertrioz]

Get the Bilstein 5100's an you can thank me later.

I have 5100's as well, so far so good.

[StitlyDute]

How much angularity could be calculated by drawing the entire drive train out with a piece of chaulk on a concrete slab and using a protractor. That's how we did it when we shortened frames on semi trucks. A 4" body lift would mean lengthening the steering column and wiring and brake lines among other things. All this for bigger tires which will change the gearing, IOW first and reverse will be geared so high you will do a lot of clutch feathering if it has a manual tranny. Driving a tall vehicle means better visibility, but on rough roads it means being thrown left and right with every bump.

If you're compromising that many design factors for larger tires, you have to ask if you want the tires for looks or performance. Taller tires are beneficial, wider tires usually not.

Decades ago I was influenced by Jew-car magazines and the shiny car materialism they inspired. 90% of modifications people do just don't pan out when you do a cost/benefit analysis. All my 4x4 vehicles are ugly and basically stock. I love the way they perform.

Sorry for the derail, Zap.

Seriously? Hoarder I understand what you're saying but don't be so fucking flippant about it. Soooooooo many thing come to mind when lifting a vehicle, number ONE the wheel base. Where's the transfer-case located etc. Please don't make blanket statements.

As an example a CJ5 with a 6 inch lift is going to have TONS of geometry issues compared to my quadcab.

[Percocetti]

Ditto on the bilsteins for shock selection. I've installed bilstein monotubes on my last 4 vehicles, and they are excellent.

The difference between monotube v.s. twin tube design:



Distinctly superior.

[attishina]

Seriously? Hoarder I understand what you're saying but don't be so fucking flippant about it. Soooooooo many thing come to mind when lifting a vehicle, number ONE the wheel base. Where's the transfer-case located etc. Please don't make blanket statements.

As an example a CJ5 with a 6 inch lift is going to have TONS of geometry issues compared to my quadcab.

I think you can agree though with hoarders point, very rarely if ever do 4x4 trucks benefit from being lifted under any circumstance. Nor is it necessary for 99% of people.

[SM9WI8oI]

I think you can agree though with hoarders point, very rarely if ever do 4x4 trucks benefit from being lifted under any circumstance. Nor is it necessary for 99% of people.

LS oh absolutely. I use to offroad all the damn time and that was with a 4 banger Nissan with 33 inch tires. The only mod I had was aftermarket torsion bars and the front end was kranked up. It worked great. I have yet to take the dodge offroad, but I'm systematically building it go anywhere based on the plateform. Straight front axle, Cummins motor and on and on, the only thing left for me is a locking front diff. When the rubber meets the road, and gas was unavailable, I could still go where ever the hell I wanted to go on the oil used to fry McDonald's french fries.

Hoarder threw a left jab and I'm just counter punching.

[krasniyluch]

Seriously? Hoarder I understand what you're saying but don't be so fucking flippant about it. Soooooooo many thing come to mind when lifting a vehicle, number ONE the wheel base. Where's the transfer-case located etc. Please don't make blanket statements.

As an example a CJ5 with a 6 inch lift is going to have TONS of geometry issues compared to my quadcab.

Agreed. If you read some of the Jew 4x4 hotrod mags, you will see what I mean about "cool" shiny object materialism and resource wasting modifications. The less time spent reading them and the more time spent out in the boonies, the more you will understand my point.

A bone stock Tundra has more ground clearance than most Hollywood "monster trucks".

[KeestRast]

A bone stock Tundra has more ground clearance than most Hollywood "monster trucks".

No it doesn't. I don't mind bantering about stuff, but that's a fucking blatant lie. I don't mind some exaggerating , but you're a liar in this case, unless this world of physics ceases to exist on this planet, and if it does I apologize.

All the while Zaps thread has turned into a pissing contest

[nerrttrw]

I've considered getting a Tundra, and may jack it up. What say ye?

[tilmprarnerit]

I've considered getting a Tundra, and may jack it up. What say ye?

I say you're trollin.