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Of course the breed has something to do with it. I'm just saying that, ultimately, it comes down to people. First, because owners are still responsible for the behavior of their dog. Second, because dog breeds are the result of human tinkering in the first place.
If it wasn't pit bulls it would be something else. -Arrian |
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Originally posted by Solver
It comes down to people, but how sure can you be that a human can prevent a specific dog from being aggressive, for sure? I'm not sure. I know some people who own large, potentially dangerous dogs. I trust that these people have given the dog their full attention and try to ensure it won't be aggressive. But with breeds like Rottweilers, I'm just never sure that it's enough. I've worked with Rotties and Dobies that wouldn't ever do more than slobber you to death. I've also had a neighbor with a pit bull who's most dangerous weapon was the paw pressure when he tried to curl up and go to sleep in my lap. I have yet to encounter (including a lot of rescue work) an aggressive dog of any breed whose agression did not reflect training, treatment or the home environment. I still don't get why dangerous breeds aren't universally banned. Basically, it means that animals which an average adult couldn't protect themselves against are allowed to be present in public places, on the mere assumption that their owners are able to control them - even when we're talking about animals with a hunting instinct. Surprising. Yeah, we should ban a lot more humans. |
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![]() I understand what you're saying, Solver. My dog is a labrador retriever - considered to be a nice, friendly breed. And they are. Mine, however, is a crazy sonofa***** because his first owner ****ed him up. He wouldn't actually hurt you, but he sure would scare the crap out of you. He's 90 lbs, and not the slightest bit fat. -Arrian |
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
I'm not a fan of owning pit bulls. Whether it's the dog or the owner, something always seems to occur with pit bulls. yeah me too. Even though my uncle had one. I'm tired of these violent people owning pit bulls. They do it because they have no regard for human life. It's an ugly dog, so they aren't doing it for aesthetic reasons. They do it because they want to kill and hurt other people legally. ![]() |
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I think he did it because he's a Jack Russell and they don't back down from anything.
But I've seen totally unaggressive dogs defend children before with shocking violence. As in my golden retriever kicking the unholy hell out of some terrier type thing when I was a little boy, because the terrier thing tried to bite me. My dad had to pry his jaws off the thing, 'cause he was gonna kill it. He had it by the neck and was flipping it left-right-left-right, slamming it into the pavement. Never before that, nor subsequent to that did my golden do anything violent. The trigger was ****ing with his family. -Arrian |
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Originally posted by Solver
I've worked with Rotties and Dobies that wouldn't ever do more than slobber you to death. I've also had a neighbor with a pit bull who's most dangerous weapon was the paw pressure when he tried to curl up and go to sleep in my lap. I have yet to encounter (including a lot of rescue work) an aggressive dog of any breed whose agression did not reflect training, treatment or the home environment. Part of the issue is people's reactions. I have an intense phobia of dogs. Well, maybe not so intense anymore, it's really gotten better in the last 2-3 years, but it's still considerable. A Rottweiler who would try to be friendly and "kiss" me or something would quite possibly cause me to lose control of myself. And even moreso because I know that, if I scare the dog into thinking I'm aggressive, I can't defend myself. Although I acknowledge that this is, for the most part, a problem with me. Yeah, we should ban a lot more humans. That we should, too. I don't have a phobia. I just hate big attack dogs. I'm afraid one will kill my dog. My dog is 50 pounds. It's a decent sized dog though. Violent people have violent dogs. 'nuff said. |
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In my town, it's not unusual to see Doberman or even Pitbull run freely through the parks - or ocasionally even on the playground in the park. I hate those situations because I'm completely powerless, I can't even argue with the owner for fear of the animal.
I'm the same way. it's why I dont' like walking my dog anymore. I'll either take her up to the mountains or the dog run. But if there's other dogs in the dog run, I don't like to. I just don't trust people, and their dogs. |
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Originally posted by Ecthy
Spoken like a true dog fanatic. Do you also own pit bull fighter dogs? ![]() The type of dog a person has says a lot about the person. Anti social and violent people own violent and anti social dogs. my dog is a mutt. Friendly, and almost never barks. I like quiet dogs. |
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Originally posted by Solver
Gee. Sometimes cynophobia is an annoying thing to live with. I'd rather be scared of, dunno, bees, at least you don't see much of them. Personally, I have Sphaksophobia (fear of wasps) on my phobia list. I like my Cynophobia better because I'm able to control it (which prolly means I'm not phobic but just somewhat anxious). But when a wasp comes close, I' simply elbow everything/-one out of my way to open an escape corridor. It's great fun to have outdoor dinner with me in summer. ![]() ![]() |
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