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Old 01-20-2007, 05:16 AM   #21
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This will just mean that satellites will be redesigned. There will be decoy satellites and such. It really makes no difference. Just more escalation. For now, there will just be some fear-mongering in the US and Japan, and then it will be forgotten.
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:13 AM   #22
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Originally posted by GePap
Once you can shoot down satellites, it does not matter how old the technology is. Its the same principle as a nuke. A nuke with crica 1945 technology can kill hundreds of thousands of people. If you can get it to the target...
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:15 AM   #23
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker


That was really bad I know. Stream of consciousness.
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:32 AM   #24
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I heard somewhere the Chinese cheated a bit - they changed the sat's course to move into the path of the incoming missile, to ensure the test is successful. That would indicate that indeed the technology they use currently sucks. However it would be foolish to believe that they can't do better sooner or later....
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:39 AM   #25
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hmm, maybe I answered my own question

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Old 01-20-2007, 11:48 AM   #26
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They're catching up, though (not that I think that's necessarily a good thing).

5 years ago they hadn't yet put a man in space. In the 60s they still had cavalry. Like with horses. They are closing the gap in some things, but the degrees of change are different the more advanced you go. the diference between 60's and 70's tech is no where near as great as the difference between 90's and 00's tech.

Aircraft. They just built their first home grown fighter and it is the equivalent of an F-16. That is 30 years behind. Their best airframes are still foriegn.

Warships: After 30 years of R&D they still have no carrier. They ever bought two from Russia and still can't make it work. Their newest supposedly "advanced" DDGs just mounted phased arrays, 26 years behind the US. Their nuke subs are 60's era as far as capabilities. Their one ballistic nuke sub will sink intself if used, assuming it works at all.

Basically all China does is wait for long enough for shareware to come out. After 26 years world technical expertise will advance enough that anyone can build a phased array radar, it is no longer state of the art. Meanwhile we are about to field the DDG-1000 with the next revolution in military sensors.

If you think about it, what equipment does China have that is the ****, something no one can touch?
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:09 PM   #27
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Satellites need not be nearly as expensive as they are. If there were a real threat then we would be able to mass produce them, cutting down costs immensely (a bunch of the cost is R&D and design and testing). And how do you get them into space? A slingshot?

I don't think one can really mass produce sophisticated surveillance and communications equipment, nor would it make sense to mass produce those things.

And again, the cost of putting them in place and the ability to put them into space is another bottleneck. Unless you think we can mass produce rocket launch sites.
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:56 PM   #28
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Its far cheaper for the Chinese to shoot down a US spy satellite once they can do it with no problem than it is for the US to replace them, and certainly cheaper to gain parity on the battlefield by denying the US its space assets than investing the hundreds of billions of dollars it would take to match US space assets.

In a war where our space assets are being actively eroded it is possible to take countermeasures to make it a lot harder. For instance, regular course corrections or dummy satellites.
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:28 PM   #29
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Originally posted by GePap
You silly enough to think the missile the Chinese used to shoot down the satellite was a nuke?? No dummy, I was refering to your poor metaphor. Cripes.
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:48 AM   #30
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It is a little more complex than that. No it isn't. Which is why, as battle-ready ripped-shirt Kirk is, we cannot trust him to fight the commies
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:12 AM   #31
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capability only. It takes a much bigger rocket to get things into mid and geo.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:19 AM   #32
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The fact that the Federation continues to exploit its non-Earth workers, imposes artificial scarcity upon non-Earth worlds, has essentially allowed humans to dominate the entirety of government (despite almost certainly being a minority), the fact that it sometimes uses money for items that even under free market conditions no longer have cost (artificial scarcity, again), uses nominally worthless units of currency when dealing with foreign states, supports feudal regiemes that brutally oppress workers around the galaxy....

The Federation is not communist.
You just described pretty much every 20th Communist state
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:46 AM   #33
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker


The launch is only a part of the cost. The costs to design and test the satellite are larger. You have to do a lot of testing to make sure it will survive to orbit, and even more to make sure it will work probably once its there. Yes they can and yes it would if we were going to be sending a bunch into space.

So your strategy would be to flood space with untested cheap satellites...great, so all the Chinese have to do is blow those up and create vast fields os space junk that would degrade our space assets anyways. Good job there....

Do you have anything serious to post on the topic?
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:03 AM   #34
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Originally posted by GePap


You silly enough to think the missile the Chinese used to shoot down the satellite was a nuke??

Its far cheaper for the Chinese to shoot down a US spy satellite once they can do it with no problem than it is for the US to replace them, and certainly cheaper to gain parity on the battlefield by denying the US its space assets than investing the hundreds of billions of dollars it would take to match US space assets. Did you note this 'attack' was launched from their space centre?
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:08 AM   #35
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He's assuming that the buildup of crap in LEO would be enough to preclude further launches. I'm not certain of that, and unless he's been hiding an advanced education in astronautical engineering I doubt he is either.
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:15 AM   #36
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And even if it did, why not launch 10 inert blobs to cover for the one critical system? What do they aim at?

There's a heck of a lot of sky up there. A lot more than there is Earth surface. Maybe Gepap should consider that. How many sats could be laid end to end from New York to LA? Over 1,000,000?
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