[Grenader]

I don't get why politicians think they'll get away with that sort of thing. Time to put antipsychotics in the tap water at the Diet?

[SarSerceSaice]

Originally posted by Zoid
Power corrupts and since they aren´t in touch with ordinary people or haven´t been scrutinized by the press previously, I think the whole thing comes as a bit of a rude awakening... Doesn't explain the recurrent scandals of the previous gov't, that had been in power for years.

[purchasviagra]

It doesn´t matter if you watch TV or not, as long as you own a TV, video or TV-card in your computer you have to pay licence fee. That´s the law

Btw Always is spelt with one "l"

[vigraxtru]

How big are the licence fees anyway?

[aceriscoolon]

It's cheaper in Sweden. One of the articles linked above mentions:

The 1,500 kronor (£109; US$200) per year TV licence fee

That's not little, but given politican's income it must be affordable. Stupid way to lose position.

[Teeppoodiug]

What's the average monthly salary in Sweden?

[Nifoziyfar]

I just looked up some figures. Apparently, a Swede has to give up about 5,8% of his monthly salary to pay the yearly licence fees, while average Croat has to give up 15,8% of his average monthly salary to pay the yearly licence fees. It would be interesting to know for other countries too.

[RonPeeredob]

In Sweden you pay 164 kr/month. That would be 1% of your monthly salary if you earn 16000 kr/month. I don´t know where VetLegion gets his numbers...

[masterboyz]

Originally posted by Winston
Within the first week of their appointment? Tsk..

I think this is more telling of the state of Swedish media and the climate of public debate than of Swedish politicians.

Somebody apparently have their minds firmly set on trying to compromise in every possible way this travesty that is a non-Social Democratic government. "Yeah, when those stupid voters don't know what's good for them, we'll show them, one way or another!" Yeah, because the media hasn't harassed socdem politicians?

[Doctor-CTAC]

Originally posted by Winston
This is indicative of the extreme bias of your climate of public debate. Anything that doesn't conform to the precious Social Democratic way of looking at things has to be run through the grinder and presented in the worst possible light.

This new government is clearly an aberration and must be confronted by any means necessary. It's just not natural for Sweden to have Social Democrats on the sidelines, seems to be the unspoken mantra of your leading media outlets. I can only conclude you're crazy, not following our media, or both.

[Jorcelirl]

You'll note that you're computing a year's fees as a percentage of a month's wage, whereas Zoid is computing a month's fees as a percentage of a month's wage. That you reach wildly different results should be no surprise.

[hereiamguy]

Originally posted by VetLegion
I took 26000 SEK (one of the numbers Google turned up) to be the average monthly salary and 1500 SEK (from the BBC article) to be the annual fee. Analogous data acquisition for Croatia. That is how I came up with my numbers. 26000 is way to much. 18000 is the numbers according to the national census bureau. And you can´t divide the yearly fee with the monthly income. That´ll give you the kind of screwed up numbers you got...

[Breevereurl]

Originally posted by Zoid


26000 is way to much. 18000 is the numbers according to the national census bureau. OK, thanks for that info.

And you can´t divide the yearly fee with the monthly income. That´ll give you the kind of screwed up numbers you got... I can divide it with daily or hourly income if I want, the point was comparison with other countries.

[scemHeish]

It doesn´t matter what government is currently in power. Do I have to remind you of the numerous socdem ministers that have been forced to resign due to finacial irregualrities and other stuff?

[12Dvop4I]

Originally posted by VetLegion

I can divide it with daily or hourly income if I want, the point was comparison with other countries. But you´re still wrong. According to Article 39, section 4 of the Croatian Radio and Television Act of 2001 the license fee is 1,5% of your average net salary the past year.

http://www.hrt.hr/hrt/zakon010302_eng.html

[Ijkavylo]

Originally posted by Winston
Within a week of their appointment? AFAIK no socdem minister had that kind of skeletons in the closet upon taking up office. But that´s beside the point, the point is that when the transgressions occured the newspapers were after the ministers in question like a pack of wolves. Mona sahlin was force to resign because she´d used her government credit card for buying various small stuff like a Toblerone bar. She lost the chairman seat of the SAP and the PM seat because of this. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobleroneaff%C3%A4ren

And Laila Freivalds was forced to resign twice! The first time because of a apartment deal and the second because of the tsunami disaster.

etc, etc...

[reachmanxx]

Originally posted by Zoid


AFAIK no socdem minister had that kind of skeletons in the closet upon taking up office. But that´s beside the point, the point is that when the transgressions occured the newspapers were after the ministers in question like a pack of wolves. Mona sahlin was force to resign because she´d used her government credit card for buying various small stuff like a Toblerone bar. She lost the chairman seat of the SAP and the PM seat because of this. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobleroneaff%C3%A4ren

And Laila Freivalds was forced to resign twice! The first time because of a apartment deal and the second because of the tsunami disaster.

etc, etc... Tomas Bodström didn't start to pay the TV fee until after he became minister of justice. But he didn't resign, and there was no media wolfpack hunting him.

[BigMovies]

Yeah, I see now that the law is talking about the yearly income, so it's ok and in compliance with what I was saying. Zoid stop creating confusion in the thread

[JackieC]

Now now Winston, everyone knows that leftie politicians don't do anything naughty. Look at our Labour Party (bit of a stretch calling them left). Would they do anything dodgy like this? Hell no...

[ReneCM]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Yeah, I see now that the law is talking about the yearly income, so it's ok and in compliance with what I was saying. Zoid stop creating confusion in the thread Ok!