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Old 11-18-2010, 06:34 AM   #1
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Default 4G Coming to the UK in 2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11776901

I'd better start saving for the iPhone 4G (the proper one).
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:53 AM   #2
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4G! Pah! This is the basic definition of 4G, "A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based solution where facilities such as ultra-broadband (giga-bit speed such as 100+ MiB/s) Internet access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users."

All this LTE, WiMax, etc. is pre 4G at best.

The 4G working group has defined the following as objectives of the 4G wireless communication standard:

- Flexible channel bandwidth, between 5 and 20 MHz, optionally up to 40 MHz.
- A nominal data rate of 100 Mbit/s while the client physically moves at high speeds relative to the station, and 1 Gbit/s while client and station are in relatively fixed positions as defined by the ITU-R,
- A data rate of at least 100 Mbit/s between any two points in the world,
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:07 AM   #3
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Save your money. They can't even get 3G working very well yet.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:16 AM   #4
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High speed access and horrible caps! I love the direction carriers are going. You'll be able to use up your monthly bandwidth in less than an hour. I really hope carriers in Europe aren't like carriers in the US with their crappy data.

I'm with dangermoose on this though. Who cares about faster speeds when it's not reliable or consistent?
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:09 AM   #5
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High speed access and horrible caps! I love the direction carriers are going. You'll be able to use up your monthly bandwidth in less than an hour. I really hope carriers in Europe aren't like carriers in the US with their crappy data.

I'm with dangermoose on this though. Who cares about faster speeds when it's not reliable or consistent?
I don't have that problem with sprint
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #6
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Did somebody say 4G?


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Old 11-18-2010, 11:32 AM   #7
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High speed access and horrible caps! I love the direction carriers are going. You'll be able to use up your monthly bandwidth in less than an hour. I really hope carriers in Europe aren't like carriers in the US with their crappy data.

I'm with dangermoose on this though. Who cares about faster speeds when it's not reliable or consistent?
What caps? No caps on my sprint unlimited plan.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:30 PM   #8
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What caps? No caps on my sprint unlimited plan.
There are other countries other than the United States you know....
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:55 PM   #9
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There are other countries other than the United States you know....
Yeah the closest we get in Norway is 30GB / month (one of the ISPs 4G package), couldn't find any completely uncapped connections.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:25 PM   #10
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What caps? No caps on my sprint unlimited plan.
There isn't a sprint store for about a hundred miles of where I'm at....I'm talking the two big carriers who have coverage coast to coast for the most part.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:15 PM   #11
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There are other countries other than the United States you know....
Why do you think he quoted someone from the US then?
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:22 PM   #12
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What caps? No caps on my sprint unlimited plan.
Sprints, just like verizon's, "unlimited" plan has a soft cap of 5GB a month. While you can go over that every now and then, they will start to throttle you if you consistently go over that 5GB. Or if you are pushing way above that soft cap. While it's bs, that's just how it is though.

On a side note i say there should be a class action lawsuit against sprint/verizon for advertising "Unlimited data" when there is this 5GB cap in place.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:24 PM   #13
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Sprints, just like verizon's, "unlimited" plan has a soft cap of 5GB a month. While you can go over that every now and then, they will start to throttle you if you consistently go over that 5GB. Or if you are pushing way above that soft cap. While it's bs, that's just how it is though.

On a side note i say there should be a class action lawsuit against sprint/verizon for advertising "Unlimited data" when there is this 5GB cap in place.
But they, technically, aren't doing anything illegal. You still have Unlimited Data, however they don't (to my knowledge) guarantee Unlimited Max-Bandwidth Transfer Rates.
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:14 AM   #14
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But they, technically, aren't doing anything illegal. You still have Unlimited Data, however they don't (to my knowledge) guarantee Unlimited Max-Bandwidth Transfer Rates.
Your first time or 3 (or something like that) they will just throttle your b/w. After that they will just shut it off until the start of the next billing cycle. That is where it's illegal.
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:34 AM   #15
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Your first time or 3 (or something like that) they will just throttle your b/w. After that they will just shut it off until the start of the next billing cycle. That is where it's illegal.
Gotcha

Ah, well. Maybe you should just firebomb the closest store.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:40 AM   #16
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The funny thing I find about the 4G thing... 3G is perfectly capable of delivering the speeds in that screen shot. I get 5Mbps on the iphone 4 which isn't 3G LTE compatible, which Telstra has LTE enabled. So as soon as as we see 3G LTE Phones and not just the modems you can get over 12Mbits over here on 3G.

Mmm, what a juicy unrealistic but interesting test! http://www.zdnet.com.au/telstra-lte-...-339303945.htm
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:51 AM   #17
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Your first time or 3 (or something like that) they will just throttle your b/w. After that they will just shut it off until the start of the next billing cycle. That is where it's illegal.
I doubt that they even really do that effectively. I remember Comcast saying that they were going to throttle all torrenting. I haven't seen any difference myself and hit peak bandwidth all the time. Still even get the powerboost speeds on really good torrents.

Plus on a cell phone, 5GB. Would that really be hit by more than 1% of the users?
My only fear with these caps, like Comcasts 250GB cap that effects less than 1% of users, is that it beings the process of the door closing in on the consumer. The caps go down, and new caps come in with higher prices.
That is one thing over there in Europe, is they do, can and average higher internet speeds, but must all connections seemed to be capped.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:23 AM   #18
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Actually it seems that these cellphone companies are better at throttling and shutting on your internet for your phone then actually ISP's seem to be these days. I've had a few friends have their net throttled on their phones, but their home connection keeps chugging away. [rofl][rofl]
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