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Old 09-15-2006, 06:39 PM   #1
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Default Ford slashes 10,000 more jobs, 2 plants
Yay! Mazda will buy otu ford!



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Old 09-15-2006, 06:54 PM   #2
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It's gonna get worse before it gets better. At least they're trying to do something.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:57 PM   #3
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Japanese car companies building auto plants in the US
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:04 PM   #4
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It's all that Bush's fault.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:06 PM   #5
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Of course. That goes without saying.

Keep in mind, this is 10,000 at Ford only. It doesn't take into consideration businesses that will suffer in direct response.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:03 PM   #6
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This has more to do with crap management then anything. EVERYONE told them to expand their car line up and concentrate less on trucks but Ford's management never listened. Now gas prices went up and trucks are out of style yet Ford doesn't have much in the way of cars to sell. Thus they are losing money hand over fist.

Just poor management.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:53 PM   #7
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Keep your hands to yourself.

There are 1.7 million more jobs in the US this year versus last, by the way.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:27 PM   #8
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What do you want? Mr Fun makes a comment that we're losing jobs. It seems fair to correct the falsehood.
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:29 AM   #9
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We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace. Those manufacturing jobs average much better pay then the services jobs which you keep talking about.
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:05 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Oerdin
We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace. Neither is this true. We have more manufacturing jobs now than a year ago.

You guys say whatever pops into your heads without verifying that it's true.
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:19 AM   #11
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My sevice sector job pays well mostly because there are damn few Americans willing to do the hard work to get a science degree. There are good paying service sector jobs but my point is on average service sector jobs pay worse then manufacturing jobs once equalized for education.
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:03 AM   #12
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Not likely. More likely they will find jobs outside of the automotive sector.
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:13 AM   #13
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Interestingly, GM is by far the best performing Dow stock this year: up 70% YTD.
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:17 AM   #14
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Did they kill the St. Thomas plant?

My uncle may be out of a job...
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:40 AM   #15
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Originally posted by One_more_turn
Interestingly, GM is by far the best performing Dow stock this year: up 70% YTD. It still has a market cap less then Harley-Davidson. The reason being they have huge legancy costs associated with retired employees.

The big three's man problem is the management culture which lives for next quarter instead of thinking several years out. This is what lead them to concentrate solely on SUVs and trucks while ignoring their car lines. Thus when market conditions changed from trucks to cars they were stuck flat footed.

Also GM most certainly does spend more on RND then Toyota but the average is indeed less due to GM's RND being spread out over something like 11 or 12 brands.
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Old 09-16-2006, 05:10 AM   #16
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They are indeed. The UAW have been trying to unionize them for year without much success.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:28 AM   #17
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Curiously enough, Ford in Europe is profitable overall so someone knows how to run a car company. Makes me wonder if the fundamental problem is that Ford in the USA have never faced up to the fact that Americans will buy "foreign" brands rather than mindlessly handing over their dollars to American companies.
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