[Snocioncilm]

Holger Perner's plants are grown in vitro in his lab and he has CITES permits for those brought into the US.

[houkbsdov]

This is so silly. If vietnam did not, as they insist, issue permits for "vietnamese" plants then how could they be legal!

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Rumor has it that Hengduan Biotech will have some at the SB orchid show this month..... Maybe even some flasks. Along with helenae, and areaanum.

[Efksqhyu]

According to some people I know in Vietnam, some people working for CITES are so dense they dont even know what an orchid is when presented to them.

It was also put to me the main reason legal imports are not allowed by the Vietnamese authorities is that quite a few Vietnamese political elite are involved in plant smuggling and dont want legal plants getting out as keeping them illegal boosts the prices...

Well this is there suggestion, but I would not be at all surprised.

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I've been trying to contact Holger at Hengduan Biotech but haven't been successful. The site seems to be down and has for some time. I was lucky enough to have a someone hand carry a couple of flasks back from the D.C. event and they are pretty big seedlings in flask. No way can I count 20 or 25 but upon deflasking, I can say there is 15 very strong seedlings in there. One of the better flasks, I've run across. If anyone can contact them please let me know as I'd like to order a couple of more flasks. I know he has already done the paperwork on what he is bringing in but I'd like to be fortunate again and get a pair of flasks and have him send them to me. I couldn't even hope to be so lucky again to have them hand carried, but certainly wouldn't mind if the opportunity presented it's self.

[houkbsdov]

I can actually hear the brownshirts massing for a visit to Albany!

[saerensenatljn]

Does anyone know if Paph tranlienianum is legal in the USA? Or have a link to the source document? Either Google is mute or I can't structure a correct search for the current (2012) info. sigh. Its hell getting old.

[aAaBecker]

not sure if its legal but its ugly lol

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[MexicoCity]

i like it too, at least in photos
but people, well, that depends....

i kinda sorta think they can be, depending on the source
hengduanbiotech.com has them (but the website isn't working now) and i think all their Paphs are legal here, when imported through them, but i could easily be wrong

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[aAaBecker]

Last I heard Chia Hua Dancer and the other gigantifolium hybrids were still illegal,but you can get that anywhere and no one says anything.I doubt anyone will come kicking in your door for one plant.

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[houkbsdov]

Tranlienum not legal, hangianum not legal, vietnamense only legal from Antec, etc... unless the government believes that these plants are found in China. I had this conversation with Kerry Richards a long time ago bout plants he had with paperwork from a regional Vietnamese CITES office but the central Vietnam office said that no paperwork was given from them; therefore the US govt seized the plants.