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Old 05-23-2008, 04:12 AM   #1
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Actually McCain rejected the endorsement after hearing the Holocaust remarks Hagee had made. So he flip-flopped after the Holocaust remarks. okay
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:24 AM   #2
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And Obama flip flopped after 'ole Wright started getting louder . Yep -- all candidates, including Obama (whom I support) have changed their position on one issue or the other.

But given how Republicans could never stop tarring Kerry as a flip-flopper in 2004 campaign, I wonder if those same Republicans can stomach voting for McCain for his flip-flopping - this is not his first, or only instance of flip-flopping.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:52 AM   #3
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And Obama flip flopped after 'ole Wright started getting louder . Not really, he distanced himself from Wright's statments before Wright got louder. It wasn't until Wright started acting like a raving lunatic to the general public that he completely disavowed him.

In McCain's defense, he claims to not have known about Hagee's anti-semitism until recently. Afterward learning about it, he rejected Hagee's endorsement. What's worrying is that McCain is either genuinely clueless about what's going on around him (happily accepted endorsements from anyone without a thought as to who they are and what they support) or that he's typical Washington politician trying to grab every vote he can and playing damage-control when it blows up in his face. Eitherway, it shows some poor judgement.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:07 AM   #4
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Originally posted by DaShi
Not really, he distanced himself from Wright's statments before Wright got louder. It wasn't until Wright started acting like a raving lunatic to the general public that he completely disavowed him. He didn't distance himself from Wright until the media picked up on what he was saying (I don't buy he didn't know... why exactly did Oprah leave the same church because of Wright?)
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:25 AM   #5
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Hagee is a pathetic liar. His Holocaust remarks certainly contradict his professed claim to want to advance Christianity's mission toward a more "just and humane society."

And then there's also his bigoted hatred toward gays. What kind of bigot favors a more just, humane society? You hate bible christians in general, so it doesn't surprise me. After the polite remarks there about the Pope, Catholics have no beef with Hagee.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:27 AM   #6
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Well, then I'll agree that Obama did seem to flip-flop on this issue.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:32 AM   #7
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I still don't trust religiously inspired politicians.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:41 PM   #8
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Originally posted by snoopy369
Wait, i'm confused. Hagee is being criticized as an anti-semite but also criticized for criticizing the Catholic Church for anti-semitism I'm a bit confused as well. From what I've heard of Hagee and what I've heard him say, he is somewhat of a solid supporter of Israel.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:55 AM   #9
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Originally posted by MrFun



I'm a Christian. What I have zero tolerance for though, is bigotry preached by fundamentalist Christians. QFT
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:43 AM   #10
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I'm a Christian. What I have zero tolerance for though, is bigotry preached by fundamentalist Christians. In other words you hate bible christians. I'm sorry Mr. Fun, that's a fact.

I think it's sad that someone who professes to be a Christian hates other Christians to such a degree. Just because you label them as 'fundamentalists' doesn't justify your hate for them.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #11
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Default McCain and Hagee, sitting in a tree . . . .
This was already ridiculous though. Everyone knows evangelicals hate Catholics anyway. You can find Catholic hate speech from pretty much any evangelical pastor.
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