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**evammaUselp** · 08-10-2012, 02:17 AM

I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all.......

Now then......four days ago I posted all the paper work needed at the court house in order to obtain a patent for my property and after 57 more days I'll have it recorded and.......no more taxes for my land.......... today I sent by certified mail a letter to the Financial Manager of the Department of the Interior to find out what part of the federal debt is attached to my property and as soon as I find out what it is and pay it off and then I'll have no more taxes of any kind......no local taxes, no state taxes, no federal taxes and no property taxes........."Plan today for the way that you want to live tomorrow"... Ponce

As soon as everything comes together I'll let you know and if you no long want to pay property taxes I'll help you
do it.............

**FrereeDoulley** · 08-10-2012, 02:20 AM

You are the best my friend. If you can show us the road, that would be amazing. Lov ya brother.

**videolkif** · 08-10-2012, 02:22 AM

Awesome.
Don't be such a stranger from now on!

**Stappipsy** · 08-10-2012, 02:26 AM

Good to see you back. I've been "out of the loop" for awhile myself. New job position, lots going on in my personal life, etc.

**Civilrecordzz** · 08-10-2012, 02:29 AM

I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all.......

Now then......four days ago I posted all the paper work needed at the court house in order to obtain a patent for my property and after 57 more days I'll have it recorded and.......no more taxes for my land.......... today I sent by certified mail a letter to the Financial Manager of the Department of the Interior to find out what part of the federal debt is attached to my property and as soon as I find out what it is and pay it off and then I'll have no more taxes of any kind......no local taxes, no state taxes, no federal taxes and no property taxes........."Plan today for the way that you want to live tomorrow"... Ponce

As soon as everything comes together I'll let you know and if you no long want to pay property taxes I'll help you
do it.............

& what was the inspiration for this action?

Welcome Home Ponce, welcome home!

**hoarrimilsora** · 08-10-2012, 02:30 AM

Really, Ponce. Stick around.

We'll hook you up with Janadele. She's the hot new Mormon. Hmmm? Whadya say?

**tomspoumn** · 08-10-2012, 02:31 AM

"If you don't post, you're not here"
JohnQPublic

**shashaffff** · 08-10-2012, 02:45 AM

You know, if everyone did this it would muck up the entire system to the point the collectivists couldn't get any of their agenda accomplished.

**Chooriwrocaey** · 08-10-2012, 02:47 AM

Thanks for the update Ponce. Stick around, you know you miss all of us here...

**mymnarorump** · 08-10-2012, 03:22 AM

glad to see ya stop by ponce!

**Ikrleprl** · 08-10-2012, 03:46 AM

We'll hook you up with Janadele. She's the hot new Mormon. Hmmm? Whadya say?

Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele!

If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest.

**tomspoumn** · 08-10-2012, 04:29 AM

Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele!

If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest.

Come on guys, keep it respectful.

**finasteridonline** · 08-10-2012, 04:40 AM

There is a utube about stoping the tax on land.
Can't post the link from this phone

**Trikaduliana** · 08-10-2012, 04:41 AM

So, we're all clear for the journey to Silver Island then?

**Finkevannon** · 08-10-2012, 05:43 AM

Come on guys, keep it respectful.

...

Maybe if those big ol' gross hairy guys had tentacles?

For us dudes, how do we grow tentacles? I'm thinking this tentacle fantasy might be fun to explore with a hot babe. I'm pretty open minded...yes, tentacles through me off a bit, but I'm game. Tentacle City...let's bring it.

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?

.

You said yourself you wouldn't meet anyone from this forum in person.

**Finkevannon** · 08-10-2012, 05:50 AM

I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all.......

Yes it is.

Ponce, don't be a stranger dude.

We need to get back to basics on " Jews " , " Zionists " , argue about that.

The Old Ponce needs to get back to work.

Some more Ponce stories, I am getting tired of the Gypsies on here.

What do you think of this one.

It's the Jews, Stupid!!!

**allvideO** · 08-10-2012, 06:10 AM

Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele!

If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest.

Smite! Double Smite!

What's up with "shack-up" trend lately?

(I guess if we just wait a little while you'll delete that post or change it)

**Tryphadz** · 08-10-2012, 06:42 AM

Welcome back, young man. We left the light on for you.

Your recent developments sound massive and I will follow any news on that front with interest.

**glasscollector** · 08-10-2012, 07:39 AM

Welcome back Ponce. Missed you. Can't wait for your first post of the day.

I have myself just gotten some inspiration about how to set it up so I never have to pay property taxes again. My inspiration came form a link posted by BigJohn on the How to Keep 100% of your earnings thread. The link is here:

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/soverei...n-handbook.pdf

This is a practical guide on how to become a Sovereign--a Freeman, which necessarily entails 'opting out' of the system. I've been reading this handbook for a few hours now, and found some areas where I had to laugh out loud about how clever the tactics were.

On property taxes, he says to find out what portion of the County bonds they use property tax to pay off--the principal only that is associated with your property. When they tell you, you go and get the money and buy a Postal Money order with it, and offer to settle the property tax bill forever by tendering that money. You prepare a Quitclaim Deed which you present to the Sheriff along with the Postal Money order. If they take the money and sign the Quitclaim, you will no longer be subject to property taxes. If they refuse your offer, then you will also not be liable to pay property taxes ever again. Very interesting maneuver. He gives you all the information you need, including a template of the Quitclaim Deed.

He also has really great descriptions of how to get yourself 'De-Registered' from voting, which you have to do before you make an offer to pay all your property taxes. And also how to 'opt out' of Social Security by withdrawing your power of attorney from the government inherent in the W-4 form that authorizes your employer to collect taxes for the government.

There is also a way to deal with the IRS by writing your employer a letter denying him authorization to withhold taxes from your pay.

You may already have read this document called The Errant Sovereign, by Augustus Blackstone.

Good to have you back.

Hatha

**sesWaipunsaws** · 08-10-2012, 11:39 AM

Hey So good to see you post here again! Keep us updated . 8-)

08-10-2012, 02:17 AM	#1
evammaUselp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 427 Senior Member	Hello gang.......Ponce here. I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all....... Now then......four days ago I posted all the paper work needed at the court house in order to obtain a patent for my property and after 57 more days I'll have it recorded and.......no more taxes for my land.......... today I sent by certified mail a letter to the Financial Manager of the Department of the Interior to find out what part of the federal debt is attached to my property and as soon as I find out what it is and pay it off and then I'll have no more taxes of any kind......no local taxes, no state taxes, no federal taxes and no property taxes........."Plan today for the way that you want to live tomorrow"... Ponce As soon as everything comes together I'll let you know and if you no long want to pay property taxes I'll help you do it............. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:20 AM	#2
FrereeDoulley Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 424 Senior Member	You are the best my friend. If you can show us the road, that would be amazing. Lov ya brother. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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videolkif Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	Awesome. Don't be such a stranger from now on! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:26 AM	#4
Stappipsy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Good to see you back. I've been "out of the loop" for awhile myself. New job position, lots going on in my personal life, etc. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:29 AM	#5
Civilrecordzz Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 556 Senior Member	I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all....... Now then......four days ago I posted all the paper work needed at the court house in order to obtain a patent for my property and after 57 more days I'll have it recorded and.......no more taxes for my land.......... today I sent by certified mail a letter to the Financial Manager of the Department of the Interior to find out what part of the federal debt is attached to my property and as soon as I find out what it is and pay it off and then I'll have no more taxes of any kind......no local taxes, no state taxes, no federal taxes and no property taxes........."Plan today for the way that you want to live tomorrow"... Ponce As soon as everything comes together I'll let you know and if you no long want to pay property taxes I'll help you do it............. & what was the inspiration for this action? Welcome Home Ponce, welcome home! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:30 AM	#6
hoarrimilsora Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 624 Senior Member	Really, Ponce. Stick around. We'll hook you up with Janadele. She's the hot new Mormon. Hmmm? Whadya say? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:31 AM	#7
tomspoumn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	"If you don't post, you're not here" JohnQPublic Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:45 AM	#8
shashaffff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	You know, if everyone did this it would muck up the entire system to the point the collectivists couldn't get any of their agenda accomplished. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 02:47 AM	#9
Chooriwrocaey Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Thanks for the update Ponce. Stick around, you know you miss all of us here... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 03:22 AM	#10
mymnarorump Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 653 Senior Member	glad to see ya stop by ponce! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 03:46 AM	#11
Ikrleprl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	We'll hook you up with Janadele. She's the hot new Mormon. Hmmm? Whadya say? Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele! If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 04:29 AM	#12
tomspoumn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele! If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest. Come on guys, keep it respectful. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 04:40 AM	#13
finasteridonline Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	There is a utube about stoping the tax on land. Can't post the link from this phone Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 04:41 AM	#14
Trikaduliana Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	So, we're all clear for the journey to Silver Island then? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 05:43 AM	#15
Finkevannon Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Come on guys, keep it respectful. ... Maybe if those big ol' gross hairy guys had tentacles? For us dudes, how do we grow tentacles? I'm thinking this tentacle fantasy might be fun to explore with a hot babe. I'm pretty open minded...yes, tentacles through me off a bit, but I'm game. Tentacle City...let's bring it. Think Ximmy likes tentacles? . You said yourself you wouldn't meet anyone from this forum in person. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 05:50 AM	#16
Finkevannon Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	I decided to come back and post this because I feel that it is inportant for one and all....... Yes it is. Ponce, don't be a stranger dude. We need to get back to basics on " Jews " , " Zionists " , argue about that. The Old Ponce needs to get back to work. Some more Ponce stories, I am getting tired of the Gypsies on here. What do you think of this one. It's the Jews, Stupid!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 06:10 AM	#17
allvideO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 665 Senior Member	Life's short, Ponce. You should follow Santa's advise and shack up with Janadele! If you don't shag it...you don't, well, you finish the rest. Smite! Double Smite! What's up with "shack-up" trend lately? (I guess if we just wait a little while you'll delete that post or change it) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 06:42 AM	#18
Tryphadz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	Welcome back, young man. We left the light on for you. Your recent developments sound massive and I will follow any news on that front with interest. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 07:39 AM	#19
glasscollector Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 525 Senior Member	Welcome back Ponce. Missed you. Can't wait for your first post of the day. I have myself just gotten some inspiration about how to set it up so I never have to pay property taxes again. My inspiration came form a link posted by BigJohn on the How to Keep 100% of your earnings thread. The link is here: http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/soverei...n-handbook.pdf This is a practical guide on how to become a Sovereign--a Freeman, which necessarily entails 'opting out' of the system. I've been reading this handbook for a few hours now, and found some areas where I had to laugh out loud about how clever the tactics were. On property taxes, he says to find out what portion of the County bonds they use property tax to pay off--the principal only that is associated with your property. When they tell you, you go and get the money and buy a Postal Money order with it, and offer to settle the property tax bill forever by tendering that money. You prepare a Quitclaim Deed which you present to the Sheriff along with the Postal Money order. If they take the money and sign the Quitclaim, you will no longer be subject to property taxes. If they refuse your offer, then you will also not be liable to pay property taxes ever again. Very interesting maneuver. He gives you all the information you need, including a template of the Quitclaim Deed. He also has really great descriptions of how to get yourself 'De-Registered' from voting, which you have to do before you make an offer to pay all your property taxes. And also how to 'opt out' of Social Security by withdrawing your power of attorney from the government inherent in the W-4 form that authorizes your employer to collect taxes for the government. There is also a way to deal with the IRS by writing your employer a letter denying him authorization to withhold taxes from your pay. You may already have read this document called The Errant Sovereign, by Augustus Blackstone. Good to have you back. Hatha Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2012, 11:39 AM	#20
sesWaipunsaws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	Hey So good to see you post here again! Keep us updated . 8-) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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