[thomaskkk]

i saw a guy with one of these the other day, towing a small trailer. seemed like a good way to get around, for short distances & small loads.

meanwhile i was sitting there in a truck getting 20 mpg without air conditioning.

but hey, i had a radio !

[juidizHusw]

Same here... I also like to buy gas on "da rez" to avoid state and federal taxes.

...I also buy my smokes there. There is a little taste difference, but when you compare 8 cents each from the Rez to 45 cents at the corner store, the taste difference is negligible.

[freevideoandoicsI]

Driving is a privilege
No, it's not. Having a DRIVER LICENSE issued by the corporate state is a privilege. Traveling in one's own private automobile is a right.

About a week ago I got into a conversation with a cop (it wasn't a commerce stop). He asked "what kind of license plate is that?" referring to the tag I have on my automobile. I replied emphatically, "That's NOT a license plate!"

[juidizHusw]

No, it's not. Having a DRIVER LICENSE issued by the corporate state is a privilege. Traveling in one's own private automobile is a right.

About a week ago I got into a conversation with a cop (it wasn't a commerce stop). He asked "what kind of license plate is that?" referring to the tag I have on my automobile. I replied emphatically, "That's NOT a license plate!"

...so, how did the cop like being corrected? Lol
Ya gotta give us the rest of the story!

[wMceqj7F]

Same here... I also like to buy gas on "da rez" to avoid state and federal taxes.

Are the prices good on the rez?

[wMceqj7F]

...

About a week ago I got into a conversation with a cop (it wasn't a commerce stop). He asked "what kind of license plate is that?" referring to the tag I have on my automobile. I replied emphatically, "That's NOT a license plate!"

Is the rest of the story on Youtube yet?

[videolkif]

Are the prices good on the rez?

Typically about $0.40 less per gallon. The downside is that I have to drive an extra 15 miles or so (30 round trip)... but I've done the math and it's definitely worth it, especially considering that I deny the feds extra revenue!

I have a friend who buys cigarettes there, he says the prices are excellent. I don't smoke, so I wouldn't know.

[Chito]

Driving is a privilege and one has to pay for it. The taxes wouldn't be so bad if they weren't abused by government. Thye're supposed to be dedicated to infrastructure maintainance. But like very other revenue source, a lot is siphoned off into the ever growing black hole called social welfare spending.

Government is a gang of thieves writ large, yet taxes are not the half of it. The sacks of shit wearing blue costumes, in practice, shake down anyone they please, and I will not make a dependence upon a depreciating hunk of metal a means by which I would be controlled.

[juidizHusw]

Government is a gang of thieves writ large, yet taxes are not the half of it. The sacks of shit wearing blue costumes, in practice, shake down anyone they please, and I will not make a dependence upon a depreciating hunk of metal a means by which I would be controlled.

So you walk everywhere or ride a bike or rely on other people and their depreciating hunk of metal?
Just curious.

[JTS_tv]

Let me REMIND you sons a bitches. This is not about the environment, it's about oil and MONEY.

Cars running at 70 mpg BANNED in the US by Fed Gvmt

VW is not allowed by the US government to sell high milage cars to US consumers. VW MAKES the cars HERE that gets 78 mpg, but must ship it over seas. I have added this link that shows a test drive world record with the passat which was 75 mpg US http://www.vehix.com/blog/most-popular/fuel-efficient/vw-tdi-drives-1531-mile

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ghlight=diesel

[fruttomma]

Let me REMIND you sons a bitches. This is not about the environment, it's about oil and MONEY.

Cars running at 70 mpg BANNED in the US by Fed Gvmt

VW is not allowed by the US government to sell high milage cars to US consumers. VW MAKES the cars HERE that gets 78 mpg, but must ship it over seas. I have added this link that shows a test drive world record with the passat which was 75 mpg US http://www.vehix.com/blog/most-popular/fuel-efficient/vw-tdi-drives-1531-mile

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ghlight=diesel

I was looking for that thread, amazing how they control everything. We have a Honda civic that gets 36ish mixed city/HWY. If I could control the ignition and carburation I know I could get much more out of it. Why does it HAVE to have a dictated air to fuel ratio? Downhill and coasting gets the same mileage as traveling straight through town. With fuel injection they dictate mileage.

[maxuilg]

My car has a thirty two valve northstar engine in it. I read they are a high performance engine that needs to be run hard and have the carbon blown out of the cylinders on a regular basis. I do my best to do that without getting arrested. Twenty five to six miles per gallon but I don't drive it to often and when I do it's hiway driving. It rides and handles good at 120 mph and feels like it has a lot more but I haven't gone there yet. It's been a hell of a lot of fun for me.

[Lotyqnag]

Notice no mention of getting rid of the internal combustion engine all together. it is the most inneffecianet design EVER created. More than 90% of the energy in gasoline is lost to HEAT. Thats right, only about 10% of the energy in gasoline is actually used to 'propel' the car down the road.

This is why you have many additional heat exchange systems on your car: Coolant radiator, transmission cooler, oil coolers, power steering coolers, etc.

Ask any automotive engineer about the effeciancy of the internal combustioon engine.

So, the REAL issue is them keeping us on oil. PERIOD.

Well dude, what else is going to propel your car?

[w4WBthjv]

When I got my truck I had this exact thought in mind, full size trucks now have gotten ridiculously big, as far as I can tell all of the efficiency improvements have been mitigated by increased size. I am not opposed to that necessarily but it is a trend which cannot go on forever. Eventually trucks will have to get smaller, as far as I can tell North America and specifically the US is the only place in the world filled with big vehicles.

Eventually when gas is 8-10 per gallon trucks and engines will be much smaller and that is a fact. Which brings me back to my original point, having a 5.7l V8 with 381hp, 401tq under my right foot feels good, damn good in fact and down the road at least I can tell my grandkids about it.

I love a V8, I could go to sleep to the purr of a cammed v8, just give me one of those noise machines with this and I'd be asleep.

[DumErrory]

That Lopey Idle is probably one of the best sounds ever invented.

[Chito]

So you walk everywhere or ride a bike or rely on other people and their depreciating hunk of metal?
Just curious.

The post office, bank, and farmer's market are within walking distance. Otherwise, I call a cab.

[idobestbuyonlinepp]

Well dude, what else is going to propel your car?

Are you serious?

Tesla had 0 point energy using the earths electromagnetic field over 100 years ago. FREE electricity to the entire world.

In the 1930's Henry Ford had a Hemp car that ran on hemp oil. Hemp = 100% renewable energy for next to FREE.

Tom Ogle had a car in the 1970's that got 100mpg using fuel vapor.

In the past 40 years there have cars powered by water, electricity, natural gas, nuclear, hydrogen, bio diesel, cooking oil, etc. And this is only guys messing around in their garage.

The last Mars rover that was solar powered is STILL in operation. Thats about 6 years using solar power on Mars.


And you honestly think that oil is the only way to make energy?

As soon as they figure out a way to tax you for the sun's energy, you will have a nice solar powered car.


Fuel mileage = fuel atomization

Liquid gas DOES NOT BURN.

This is why carburetors got much worse mileage that fuel injected cars. Carbs run on a fuel pressure of about 8-10psi. Fuel injected cars for the past 30 years have ran on around 40psi. Newer cars run close to 100psi of fuel pressure. The higher pressure allows the gas to be atomized much more efficiently, thus allowing much less of it to be used to burn.

Search google for 'Fuel Vapor systems', also search 'Browns gas'.

[Chito]

The root of the problem is who (or what) controls the roads. So long as they are in the hands of the regime, they will always find a way to control transportation and thus commerce.

[juidizHusw]

i think my next mode of transportation is going to be a horse!

[GoblinGaga]

Until the Dilithium Crystal Engine is invented, developed and mass produced, natural gas and gasoline will have to do.

why not use what Henry Ford used in his model T?

http://rense.com/general67/FORD.HTM