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PheliarearY 01-25-2012 05:54 AM

ORGANIC and GMO cannot co-exist. Lateral Transference = why.
 
Why GMO And Organic Can Not Co-Exist: Lateral Gene Transfer

January 22, 2012 Print Version

Sayer Ji, Contributing Writer


One of the most disturbing, though commonly overlooked properties of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) is their documented ability to transfer genetic information horizontally into those who consume them.

This process actually occurs quite commonly in nature, especially among bacteria, which do not reproduce sexually and therefore have evolved a number of mechanisms through which to transfer genetic information directly between one another directly. Viruses themselves can essentially be described as 'pieces of genetic information in search of chromosomes,' their very "infectivity" being examples of horizontal gene transfer between species. The whole field of genetic engineering, in fact, would not exist were it not for the science and technology that harnesses and/or co-opts processes of horizontal gene transfer.

Technically speaking, horizontal gene transfer (also known as "lateral gene transfer") is the process by which an organism incorporates genetic material from another organism without being the offspring of that organism. Vertical transfer, on the other hand, occurs when an organism receives genetic material from its ancestor, e.g., its parent or a species from which it has evolved.

Animal research published in 2003 in the journal of Environmental Biosafety Research showed that genetically modified lactic acid bacteria are capable of transferring recombinant genes sequences directly (horizontally) into Enteroccous faecalis, another naturally occurring species of digestive tract bacteria found in humans, as well.

Other animal research on orally ingested foreign DNA not only shows it is capable of transferring to, and/or altering genetic information within, the animal consuming it, but is also capable of affecting the genetics of the fetuses and newborn of pregnant mice who were fed it.

The existence of a free flow of genetic information from food to organism, and then transplacentally, to the organism's future progeny, through horizontal gene transfer, illustrates just how true the age-old phrase "you are what you eat" is -- for better and for worse.

Perhaps more importantly is the revelation that there can be no "peaceful co-existence" between genetically modified foods and authentically natural ones, as the former by definition implies the irreversible transformation of the latter into itself. To state, as Whole Foods recently did, that co-existence is possible between GM and non-GM foods, is like saying pregnancy and virginity can co-exist, under natural circumstances.

I believe it is time to openly identify GM food for what it is.



Because genetically modified foods can vectorize the dissemination of recombinant DNA sequences throughout the entire biosphere, as well as anyone who would consume them, they embody a virus-like quality of pathogenicity and could, without exaggeration, be identified as bioweapons of potential mass destruction.

Please visit GreenMedInfo to access their vast database of articles and the latest information in natural health. 



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Codex Alimentarius
= Softkill/Depopulation.
Catherine Austin-Fitts is right!

penpizdes 01-25-2012 10:10 AM

Add to this Lateral transference the disturbing fact that these gmo crops can and do forever alter the genetic composition of their non-gmo counterparts. It is said that wild corn varieties in the mountains of Mexico now are forever polluted with gmo genetics. It is a crime against the present and the future to let these monstrosities loose upon the world.

fount_pirat 01-25-2012 12:54 PM

notice first hour guest on Kevin Barrett's radio show, MP3 link:

01/23/2012 Monday - 1st Hour: With Pam Larry. 2nd Hour: With William Veale.

Monday, January 23, 2012

"Label GMOs" activist Pamm Larry, 9/11 truth-seeking attorney William Veale

Truth Jihad Radio Mon. 1/23/12, 3-5 pm Central, American Freedom Radio(archived here.) Call-in: (402) 237-2525 or post your questions to my Facebook page.
http://www.google.com/url?source=img...A1H68QEAgNwxJg

First hour: Pamm Larry of LabelGMOs.org, a.k.a. The Committee for the Right to Know.

If the big food companies are putting out frankenfoods containing genetically modified organisms, shouldn't they have to at least tell us on the label?! The big food companies' only argument against labeling GMOs is that they'll lose sales. Don't we have the right to buy the kind of food WE want?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IJF9VVJc-z...ohn-walker.gif
Second hour: William Veale of the Center for 9/11 Justice. Veale, along with two other attorneys, represented April Gallop in her case against Cheney et. al. April Gallop and her baby were injured by the apparent bomb blast that struck the Pentagon at 9:31 a.m. (NOT 9:37, the time the government claims the Pentagon was hit by Flight 77). Escaping through the hole in the Pentagon, Gallop saw no evidence of any plane crash: No parts, bodies, luggage, wings, tail section, seats, major pieces of aluminum, wheels...NADA. While in the hospital, she was browbeaten by officials who tried to convince her that she HAD seen a crashed plane.

Later, after discussions with many Pentagon co-workers who agreed that none had seen any evidence of a plane crash, Gallop grew skeptical of the official version of 9/11, and wound up suing Cheney et. al. for perpetrating the attacks. After losing at the first level and appealing to a three judge federal panel, Gallop's lawyer William Veale was shocked to learn that one of the three judges, John Walker, was George Bush's cousin! Nonplussed that Walker hadn't already recused himself due to the obvious conflict of interest, Veale filed a motion for recusal. Walker and the other two judges not only rejected Veale's motion, but sanctioned him for even asking for the recusal! Now, in their final decision, Bush cousin Judge John Walker and his two co-panelists have sanctioned Veale and ordered him to pay a $15,000 fine for allegedly being "in bad faith" when he asked Bush's cousin to recuse himself from judging a case alleging horrific crimes by the Bush administration!

Compared to this, Alice in Wonderland's trial was a model of judicial probity.

We need to find out where Judge John Walker lives, and start staging noisy demonstrations outside his house demanding that he step down from the federal bench.
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Labels: 9/11, 9/11 truth, ballot initiative, california, george bush, gmos, inside job, john walker, label gmos, pamm larry, Pentagon, william veale

thomaskkk 01-25-2012 01:06 PM

makes me wonder if the GMO micro-monsters that we excrete after eating food with a GMO source - which most of us do, unless we are on a strict home-grown/ organic diet (which is expensive if you buy it at the store) - i wonder if the GMO micro-monsters can be nuked by cooking them at 160 F in a proper hot compost pile.

cafeviahe 01-25-2012 06:52 PM

Unless you grow it yourself or look in the eye of the farmer your food is badly compromised.

And that is by design

thomaskkk 01-25-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Unless you grow it yourself or look in the eye of the farmer your food is badly compromised.

And that is by design
what if the farmer buys their seeds from Monsanto ?

fount_pirat 01-27-2012 06:00 AM

this is from a blog, yet the headline is the only thing which refers to an 'imminent whistle-blower' - fails to substantiate that claim any further, and thus the claim must be dismissed until further notice. But I don't put anything past Monsanto, and I suspect they're neck-deep in the bee die-off phenomenon. Also see: Chemtrails and Monsanto’s New Aluminum Resistance Gene – Coincidence? UPDATE

Posted on January 4, 2012
Soon to be whistleblower who worked for Monsanto will be releasing documents detailing how Monsanto planned to kill off bee colonies in order to introduce a “new and improved” species of bee that will only pollinate Monsanto crops



Relevant: Monsanto buys company researching death of bees:
September 28, 2011, 1:59PM ET Monsanto buys bee-friendly pesticide researcher


And for those who said crops aren’t pollinated by bees? You’re wrong. Alfalfa is
Mysterious, Massive Disappearance/Death of US Honey Bees – Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD)


And if you think Monsanto isn’t dominating our government? Read some cables released by wikileaks all about our officials asking for talking points from them, our ambassadors urging trade wars on their behalf:
Wikileaks Cables Show U S Threatening Retaliation if Europe Won’t Accept Monsanto Corn


Additional info, Vanity Fair:

May 2008
Investigation

Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear

Monsanto already dominates America’s food chain with its genetically modified seeds. Now it has targeted milk production. Just as frightening as the corporation’s tactics–ruthless legal battles against small farmers–is its decades-long history of toxic contamination.
http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/politi...nsanto0805.jpg

fount_pirat 08-01-2012 01:53 PM

The 'Monsanto Rider': Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity from Federal Law?

"A so-called “Monsanto rider,” quietly slipped into the multi-billion dollar FY 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, would require – not just allow, but require - the Secretary of Agriculture to grant a temporary permit for the planting or cultivation of a genetically engineered crop, even if a federal court has ordered the planting be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement is completed. "

more:
http://www.alternet.org/food/156195/...w/?page=entire

PheliarearY 08-01-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

what if the farmer buys their seeds from Monsanto ?
THAT, my friend is the point of this whole GMO thing...with one exception...DuPont is also playing the same GMO game, only garnering less headlines. Probably should be keeping a closer eye on the DuPont shell-game sideshow.


beefsteak

PheliarearY 08-01-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

makes me wonder if the GMO micro-monsters that we excrete after eating food with a GMO source - which most of us do, unless we are on a strict home-grown/ organic diet (which is expensive if you buy it at the store) - i wonder if the GMO micro-monsters can be nuked by cooking them at 160 F in a proper hot compost pile.
According to the following, Gunny, 160°F won't do it. But here's what reportedly will.

asgardshill DNA is a nucleic acid consisting of a nitrogenous heterocyclic base, a pentose sugar, and a phosphate group. DNA can be destroyed by the same substances that can destroy other human tissue - intense heat, strong ionizing radiation, a strong base such as sodium hydroxide, or a strong acid such as hydrofluoric acid.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=45471

Oct 13 09, 12:42 AM Zbeckabee http://www.funtrivia.com/redstar.gif ALSO:

Bacteria can destroy DNA and make analysis impossible.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://indy.gov/eGov/County/FSA/Docu...20Analysis.pdf

Bacteria that Cause Food Poisoning Contain Toxins That Destroy DNA.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://opa.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=3376

Oct 13 09, 1:27 PM http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question109554.html


Yours truly has NO clue who these two responders are, just oogled "does heat destroy DNA?"


beefsteak
PS...anyone using hydrofluoric outside of a lab controlled setting or in a tantalum processing application for just 2 illustrative, commercial applications, needs their heads examined. SERIOUSLY!

NEronchik 08-01-2012 04:38 PM

this stuff scares me . just how are we going to stop this , are is it to late . time maybe shorter then we can under stand RIGHT NOW . what i dont see is there no leaders stopping this we are so f...ed

fount_pirat 08-13-2012 04:33 PM

Some good articles @ Barbara Peterson's Farm Wars,

America – Just Label GMOs Already!!!


The Battle over Genetically Modified Organisms


Monsanto Capitalizes on Drought and Enslaves Farmers


WHY in the World Are They Spraying? Lifts Veil on Geo-engineering

HartOvara 08-13-2012 09:08 PM

You wonder, assuming that the cycles of technological progress were there before Noah, if the reason for the great Flood was because everything was bio-poisoned via GMO or something like it, and there was a need to start fresh.

insoneeri 08-13-2012 11:18 PM

Sad part is they care more about share price, and market share, than life itself.

Gotta get their cut, and screw everything else.

It's essentially a full on f-cking disgrace.

carreraboyracer 08-14-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

this stuff scares me . just how are we going to stop this , are is it to late . time maybe shorter then we can under stand RIGHT NOW . what i dont see is there no leaders stopping this we are so f...ed
There is a way, but people "will not" unite to do it (multitude of distractions and all), so waiting to see how it all plays out seems to be the direction we're going. Hope we're not all dead by then...........

maxuilg 08-14-2012 03:42 AM

Monsanto is a Jew owned corporation and their god is money and satan. The gmo feeds they promote probably caussed me a loss of 60 to 80 thousand dollars last year. The link below is to a post on another forum where the history of monsanto is discussed. SOB's

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...about-monsanto

insoneeri 08-14-2012 07:42 AM

This should warm your cockles...

Monsanto Award of $1 Billion Against DuPont Reveals New Dimension of Genetic Patent Wars

"A huge verdict has come down on the side of Monsanto in the absurd amount of $1 billion to be paid by competitor DuPont. While it might seem like something to almost be happy about, since DuPont is yet another mega chemical corporation which has been implicated in damage to the environment and human health, this potentially sets a bad precedent to be cited in future legal verdicts, thus giving Monsanto even more legal standing and power. Perhaps most ominous of all, this legal victory was granted for a product that was never even on the market, taking on a new dimension in the area of patent infringement. (Source)"

fount_pirat 08-14-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Monsanto is a Jew owned corporation and their god is money and satan.
Monsanto Co. (MON)

big run from '03 (< $10) to '08 ($140), big take down H2 '08, now approaching 52 week high, could break out for another big run soon.




would it be sinful to buy said joo owned satanist corp, putting any profits towards good not evil?http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/300 (45).gif

It seems their evil plan to take over world food supply is all but fait accompli. Esp if the various conspiracies IE chemtrails & MON's being a driving force behind it, engineered drought for engineered famine, MON's chemtrail-metal resistant GMO seeds etc are real, as I believe they are. Gummit in their pocket- taxpayers footing the bill for MON's chemtrail global food supply takeover uber-racket... (and weather-control with insiders trading futures/options on "what weather will mother nature deliver next?")

PheliarearY 08-14-2012 11:39 AM

PatColo,

truthfully?

Would said profiteering not place oneself in the exact same position as the despised global bankers?

Looks from here to be a GLOWING example of breaking, at the very least, the 10th of the Ten Commandments, plus others #2, #5, #6, #8, as well. While one may not "immediately drop dead" from violating #'s 10, 2, 5, 6, and 8, the consequences are immediate, concurrent, and permanently indelible on one's soul, albeit forgiveable by the Creator of All, but still indelible scars, even if/when forgiveness is earnestly sought/requested and granted as promised in Holy Writ.

I'm struck again, this morning, by the accompanying words recorded by Moses which translate roughly in the King James as Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them [graven images of Commandment #2], nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; If I'm not mistaken, this is not the only passage that speaks to the infliction of damage to yet unborn generations based upon our own damaged state and subsequent behaviours whether deliberate or ignorant.

Reading on another site, "Global Culling has begun and 10 strategies to flip the odds in my favor" I've drawn a straight line between the red admonition/truth above and the conclusion drawn by modern science as to the DNA damage/egg production influence of our precious female partners that extend at least to the 3rd Generation in this Adamic lineage from which we sprang. God have mercy.

The beguiling siren lyric of capitalism has its downside/shortcomings, yes?


beefsteak

maxuilg 08-14-2012 01:50 PM

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would it be sinful to buy said joo owned satanist corp, putting any profits towards good not evil?http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/300 (45).gif

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Pat: Last year I had 75 head of cows out of 250 aborted their fetuses do to feed made from gmo distillers grain. Don Huber explains how it works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4swW9OFmf8

He put me in touch with a researcher at a college who is studying the new organism that tested the feed I had for the organism. The feed I had was really loaded with the organism and the fellow doing the research told me their was no doubt in his mind that it was the feed that caused them to abort. Don Huber in his videos esplains how this organism passes through the meat from cattle fed gmo feed to women. It causes infertility in women too. I don't think god would be to happy with those who are making money this way. I think those profiting would be looked on the same way as the moneychangers in the temple were when Jesus delt with them.


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