[altosburg]

Must see!
Shold be shown to every american.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPnDmIDCzM
Hes bit annoying at times, but he does get the point acrossed.

[hotsaucemidl]

Am 40 minutes in. He has good references for some of the claims I have heard previous about the validity of the Constitution, who it affects, who is a party to it etc.

I haven't found him annoying yet. He does manage to keep on track better than some I have watched. So far I would recommend this video.

[KraskiNetu]

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[hotsaucemidl]

ok so 20 minutes to go. Until about 40 minutes to end we have good information and disection of the deception. He gets pretty emotional for about 20 minutes there. He has the truth. He doesn't know the solution other than to walk away. He's a realist and that's good. Walking away under fire is not feasible. What to do. He needs the solution and there is one IMO. People like him would be supercharged at implementing the solution. They could do real good work. He's got passion for freedom.

How do they get things done? Sometimes from without, sometimes from within. The solution is within.

[phernikas]

I'm surprised palani‎ hasn't chimed in on this yet.

[evalayCap]

Congress had nothing to do with defining "person". The concept existed long before Hobbes wrote about it in Leviathan in 1651.

As far as U.S. persons being debtors ... the maxim is

Si quid universitate debetur singulis non debetur, nec quod debet, universitas singuli debent. If anything is due to a corporation, it is not due to the individual members of it, nor do the members individually owe what the corporation owes. I suppose this guy is looking for rational reasons to move people from the corporate citizenship though (and there are good reasons to do so should you choose this route) but being classed a debtor is probably not a good reason. You claiming to have a domestic relationship with an entity that pulls laws willy-nilly out of whatever source they choose will make YOU liable for the duty of observing these laws.

[jeaccatty]

http://famguardian.org/Publications/...lOfConsent.pdf

Info at link is not copyable (unless you want to go to the trouble of viewing the source code)

http://famguardian.org/Publications/...yANational.pdf

[jeaccatty]

LB doesn't like anybody very much. Only he has the truth, just listen to him.

He is probably right that there is much disinfo around.

http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/...num=1295678109


After my review of Season of Treason II, it is a fact that Kurt Kallenbach has lifted the fundamental outline of The Red Amendment and the general teachings of the People's Awareness Coalition (PAC). Moreover, his printed document that is entitled "Withdraw of Consent" contains work of other people that he has chosen to take from. The problem with this is, such other sources that are mixed with his unlearned editorial contain as many as five (5) things that are on the Patriot Misbeliefs list that PAC assembled to warn people of bad information out there. As Kallenbach does not give credit for our material, people that run across his material will be mislead.

Understand that Kurt Kallenbach is one of the four entities that was the impetus for the Island Makers Project. The division of people and bad information is why PAC launched Island Makers Project a year ago.

In short, Kallenbach lacks critical thought and is just feeding his ego off the work of others and dividing the movement.
So, the question is: Should Kurt Kallenbach be served with a Cease and Desist by PAC?

See the Poll here : http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/...num=1315923956



Kurt Kallenbach, or Kurt "Walk the Talk" Kallenbach, originally was made aware of the constitutional issues with government with information that PAC provides. Since then he had abandoned such information and has plagiarized information from a William Duff on a withdrawal of consent concept and has altered it. Just the typical patriot blathering that is seen throughout the movement which is ultimately worthless in law. It will not stand-up in any court under the scrutiny of law. Beware of executing the material he peddles. He knows next to nothing about law and the information he gives away just instigates issues and people will lack any support with legal matters.

Kallenbach set-up a patriot gathering in 2010 in Nebraska which cost Himself, Bruce Riggs, Jim Davis, and Myself in upwards of 4000 thousand dollars in expenses. All speakers were left hanging as it is apparent that he is incompetent in business dealings. Besides the fact that Kallenbach's ego had overtaken the event, it was an overall failure for multiple reasons. After the whole thing was over he told me, "You f&@ked up... you trusted us. Quoting, Animal House", he said in regard to us getting stiffed and for he and his wife keeping hundreds of dollars off PAC book sales for expenses (added 9.11). To my knowledge, the other parties have not been compensated with the exception of myself (by some supporters). It is ventured that I was compensated due to the fact the other parties were not seen worthy of such by some of the people who attended the event. I no longer work with any of them due to their self-importance issues.

Also, he is in possession of some of my property and had been asked to return it three times.
After a year he still has it and has made absolutely no effort to return it.

Another note, he told me that "I am in it for the money", which is nonsense. People that have worked with me to the full extent know better and know what the plan is for State Nationals once it hits critical mass. Also, I do not have a wife that supports me so not only do PAC expenses have to be taken care of, but have to support myself.

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