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Old 04-23-2012, 02:03 AM   #1
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Default Holodomor the Movie (2009) (Ukraine genocide early 1930s)
"hollywood does holomodor" - hmm gotta wonder right? What's their angle? Maybe a Big Lie of Omission WRT a certain "eternally-persecuted ethno-religious minority group" who comprised the overwhelming majority behind Stalin/bolsheviks? I don't know, haven't seen this vid, don't even believe it was in theaters:

http://www.holodomorthemovie.com

Synopsis

Logline:

“The biggest lie, the best kept secret.”
Synopsis:

In 1932-33 Ukraine, the breadbasket of the Soviet Union, had bountiful crops of grain yet its people were dying of starvation. In order to crush the will of the independent-minded Ukrainian peasants and secure collectivization of all Ukrainian lands, Joseph Stalin ordered an army of ruthless Communist Party activists to confiscate all harvested grain and seize all the foodstuffs in the villages. As a result of this genocidal decree, by the end of 1933 nearly 25 percent of the Ukrainian population – 7-10 million people, including 3 million children – had perished!

In the face of terror, Ukrainians had little possibility of escaping their horrific fate to create another life elsewhere. Travel was banned for Ukrainians keeping them confined in a prison of starvation within their own villages.

For the first time ever in the United States, a full-length feature film documentary will be presented in light of this tragic event in history. HOLODOMOR will tell the story of the cold-blooded destruction of human life which has been silenced from the world for over seven decades.
Director's Statement:

Let me begin by stating that I am not Ukrainian.

In November 2006, Producer Marta Tomkiw invited me to the Holodomor Memorial Service in Los Angeles. Although I had fancied myself as a history buff, having seen almost every World War movie I could, and studying countless hours of history channels, I had never before ever heard of a Holodomor or any Ukrainian genocide or famine. I was taught that life was great in the USSR. Much to my surprise, I later found out that no one I knew had ever heard of it either.

I was deeply touched by the Memorial service and upon the urging of one of the members of the Los Angeles Holodomor committee as well as Marta’s convincing tactics, we decided that this story needed to be told after being silenced for over seven decades.

Marta and I researched and found no other full-length feature documentary film produced in North America on this topic. I felt that the time had come for all the souls who needlessly died to be given a voice to tell their story. I believed it was our duty to lift the veil of silence that had been shrouding the Ukrainian nation too long.

The atrocities that the Ukrainian people faced and suffered should never happen again.

Bobby Leigh, Director / Producer
Find trailer and more at the site: http://www.holodomorthemovie.com. From the text above, this looks like it might be more of an independent effort- they're taking donations after all!

I didn't see it listed on Netflix- perhaps some of you Netflix subscribers should nag them to carry it? Looks now like your current options to see it are: buy the DVD, or buy the DVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb7p2vH227U


This movie isn't listed at Internet Movie Database (IMDB) either. Keyword-search for titles tagged with:

nazi (1520 titles)
holocaust (596 titles)
hitler (251 titles)
stalin (28 titles)
holodomor (1 title - Under Jakob's Ladder (2011))


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Old 04-23-2012, 02:42 AM   #2
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from their "Press" page:


HOLODOMOR documentary feature film to be made by established filmmakers in Hollywood
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EXPERT SCHOLAR AND HISTORIAN JOINS "HOLODOMOR" DOCUMENTARY FEATUREFILM TEAM
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“HOLODOMOR; Ukraine’s Genocide of 1932-33” documentary film to air on Los Angeles Cable TV Talk show “GLOBAL CONSORTIUM”and to be web-cast to 110 Universities and Colleges around the world.
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“HOLODOMOR; Ukraine’s Genocide of 1932-33” documentary short film Official Selection at film festivals in France and New York
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from their "Prospectus" page:

Prospectus

A film like “HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” deserves and requires maximum exposure to reach it’s full awareness promoting and cinematic potential. Therefore, it will require a compelling and fresh awareness campaign with a clear, unique, avant-guard, “out of the box” strategy.

There are several ways how we plan to create awareness about Holodomor with this new cutting edge film.

Educational/Festivals: Currently these events surrounding “HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” are not widely known within the western-world. If any information is known about this tragedy, it was passed down over the decades through eyewitnesses and victims rather than through media. “HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” will deliver a rare educational incite into one of the largest and most divesting events in modern history. Not only was this a man-made famine a major economic disaster, it was also a tremendous human tragedy. The death toll was higher in Ukraine than in all the battlefields combined during World War 1. All of the major film festivals: Sundance, Berlin and Cannes can provide a much-needed platform for this documentary. It will give an opportunity for the victims to share their silenced memories in hopes of bringing a public awareness to this genocide and remembering the people who suffered and relinquished life.

This film will also serve as an educational tool to be screened at High Schools, Collages and Universities to help educate today’s students and tomorrow’s leaders so that this type of tragedy never happens again. The short version (21 minute) of the feature full-length (93 minute) film has already screened at the United Nations, Universities in Australia, University of California, Ukraine and others.

&nbspistribution: “HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” a high quality, honest film with historical content is an attractive candidate for domestic and international distribution in all arenas: Theatrical, DVD/Home Video, V.O.D. (video on demand), Television, Non-Theatrical and E-Commerce. An emotional, personal compelling film like “HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” makes it a worthy film for a mainstream avenue to promote awareness to the world and educate our children, grandchildren and tomorrows leaders.

“HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” is a documentary film, a genre that has been popularized by such successful films as “ The Cove”, “Fahrenheit 911”, “March of the Penguins” and “An Inconvenient Truth”.

“HOLODOMOR: Ukraine’s Genocide” has a tremendous audience appeal to both Ukrainians and anyone who stands behind human rights. The total number of Ukrainians living in the United States in 2000 was estimated at 893,055 by Census, compared to the 1,862,416 estimated by the 2003 Census Supplementary Survey.

There are also many Ukrainian, especially the Ukrainian youth in Ukraine, who are not familiar with the details of this genocide, as it has been suppressed for so many years.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:52 AM   #3
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I would like to see this movie. I doubt that the identity of the perpetrators will be outed though.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:02 AM   #4
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Now I think I get why this film is "invisible" - it's not released yet! Or, maybe their website sub-pages are behind the curve? You can buy the DVD at the site for $24.99, so, Anyways here's their "Funding" page currently:

Funding

At this point we have over 89 hours of survivor and historian interviews and have narrowed it down to a smooth 93-minute film. The film picture is locked and now we are moving into the post-production phase (high definition, color correction and 5.1 surround sound mix) of the film before we are able to distribute the finished picture to a worldwide audience. Although the postproduction process is expensive, we are determined to raise the rest of the financing necessary to complete this film.

We are currently still fundraising for this final process in order to complete and share this unique documentary film with the world.


There are several factors that will facilitate the funding required:


There has never been a full-length (over 60 minute) documentary film produced on this subject in the United States.

There is a need and a yearning for original, educational and cutting edge material in the theatrical and cable television arena.

The successes of Independent documentary films is based on principles of keeping costs low while maintaining high standards of quality.


Director Bobby Leigh and Producer Marta Tomkiw have chronicled these tragic events of Holodomor and bring them to light and to the screen; the suffering of a nation of village farmers who will be remembered and all those who died needlessly will be vindicated.


Different ways funding can be obtained:


• Private Investors or Donors (donors will get a 100% tax deduction)
• Ukrainian organizations and companies
• In-kind services, (Post-Production facilities, Fundraising venues and Fundraising events.


Donating money (that is 100% tax deductable) in independent motion pictures is a unique opportunity that offers many rewards including emotional satisfaction and artistically. Every year hundreds of successful independent films are released into film festivals, theaters, and video stores. In addition, these people are enjoying recognition at film festivals, premiers and social gatherings including film release parties, award banquets, and film industry galas. Recognition is also prevalent in the form of media press releases, newspaper articles, television news coverage, and entertainment publications. Last but not least, donors contribute to an art form that will remain in perpetuity throughout the universe and will span many generations of filmgoers, including their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:27 AM   #5
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The Jews in Hollywood probably decided to make the movie so they could be sure there was no mention of Jews being involved. The real bad guys were the Bolsheviks and communists
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:01 PM   #6
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I remember that scene in Defamation where fatman Abe Fox was belittling the Ukranians by telling them they need to make sure that "their" holocaust doesn't get lumped in with THE holocaust™.

The worst part is the Ukranians buckled and started licking his boots!
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:25 PM   #7
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When you read this:

Joseph Stalin ordered an army of ruthless Communist Party activists to confiscate all harvested grain and seize all the foodstuffs in the villages you can be rest assured it is jews and offsprings of immigrated to US bandits like Bandera-vets and other nationalists (UPA was army over 100,000 strong on the side of Hitler) that made the movie.

Fucking bullshit.

There's no documented evidence that Stalin Did it.

More over , if any, it was Communist jews at the helm of the "Soviet" army, Trotsky-Bronshtein had an armored train full of people speaking mostly english, and full line of banker-financing to do everything he needs to do.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:56 PM   #8
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Around the time I posted the OP, I emailed the filmmakers with a meaty email & a core question. They've replied within just a few hours. Short version is, they don't name djoo, and in fact this lady says "We came across no such information..." She then goes on to describe the harassment they've endured, apparently in spite of how their docu' doesn't name djoo,

Anyone have any background on "Ukraine's SBU archives"?

first my email, then her reply- my emphasis & add-ons ought to be self-evident:

Hello Bobby, Marta:

I stumbled onto your movie/docu's website while searching for Holodomor information. I've been a bit of a student of the revisionist-historians' perspectives on the 2 great Bankers' Wars, and events in between of course. As to Hollywood's role in shaping public perceptions along these lines, here's an interesting exercise:

IMDB.com keyword-search for titles tagged with:

nazi (1520 titles)
holocaust (596 titles)
hitler (251 titles)
stalin (28 titles)
holodomor (1 title - Under Jakob's Ladder (2011))

Rather lopsided emphasis, no?

And why is your movie not listed on IMDB? I don't find it available on netflix either. Your website's "Funding" page suggests it's not released yet, however you also sell a DVD for $25.

^ whatever the status of your docu', my current working hypothesis is that the suppression of Holodomor education/info-tainment (movies, history channel docu's etc) stems from the similar historical suppression regarding a certain "eternally-persecuted ethno-religious minority group" who comprised the overwhelming majority behind Stalin/bolsheviks. If Holodomor education became widespread- even if they tried to simultaneously suppress the accompanying "Organized/Revolutionary Jewry" angle; the increased awareness of the Holodomor would inevitably threaten to bring greater scrutiny to the matter of who was behind Bolshevism generally-- and these folks, still wielding more power today than ever since WW2, don't like scrutiny,

So to boil this down to a question: Does your docu' talk about Jewry, Rothschild-Zionism, call it what you will, as the driving/steering force behind Bolshevism/communism, and the Holodomor? I'm afraid it's this kind of abuse of history which has us enslaved today, moving full steam ahead towards global tyranny by the same perps who were behind Bolshevism-- with their own much-propagandized holohoax acting as smokescreen, or "shield and sword" as many have said.

Also, while you surely want to be compensated for your work, have you considered letting a few extended clips run loose on YouTube&Co, just for the promotion value, whet appetites, etc?

Thanks for any reply. I've also started a discussion forum thread on your movie, but we lack much to talk about, in the absence of anyone being able to see it short of buying the DVD. For now it's mostly just speculation about what sort of a Holodomor movie we could expect from a "Hollywood" producer- IE what's their angle? Omitting or maldirecting attention re who the perps behind Bolshevism were? I have not seen "Under Jakob's Ladder", but that would be my guess as to the "Lie of Omission" we'd find in it. So I'll be eager to share any additional information you can pass on to me.

Best Regards, Hello :

How are you? Thanks for your email.

My name is Marta Tomkiw and I am the producer of the film. I am of Ukrainian descent and our film Holodomor film is very close to my heart. Besides Harvest of Despair, there were no other docs made about Holodomor at the time we started. I thought it important to give a collective voice to all those poor souls who perished during Holodomor. I was surprised how little information there is about Holodomor in the mainstream: it's very important the World know the horrors of what transpired, It was suppressed far too long!

We did extensive research, interviewed historians, scholars, went through archives including Ukraine's SBU archives. In reply to your question: "So to boil this down to a question: Does your docu' talk about Jewry,
Rothschild-Zionism, call it what you will, as the driving/steering force behind Bolshevism/communism, and the Holodomor?"
We came across no such information as you refer to so no.


We are a small indy grassroots operation of 2. You are correct, even though this movie is out and being distributed, we are still not quite finished with all we need to do Hence we can only distribute on our website for now. We hope to distribute on Netflix & other outlets in the future.

Our film was listed on IMDB. I do not know why it's not there. I will investigate that tomorrow. Thank you for the heads up about that.

It was quite challenging in making this documentary and still is. There are people who tried to stop us and still are But that's material for a behind the scenes book if I ever choose to write one. We were chased, people tried to intimidate and threaten us, our names were slung through mud, our website was dismantled, my computer was hacked into in Moscow, we were followed, etc.

At this juncture as much as we would like to, we cannot run any clips on You Tube. It's due to our current licensing agreement. However, that is an excellent idea and thank you for that

There is a trailer available for viewing on our website.

Our angle was the tell the truth of the horrors that happened in Ukraine during 1932-33 under expert scholar direction to ensure our facts were correct.

Thank you so much for reaching out to us.

Warmest Regards,



Marta Tomkiw

P.S. Are you of Ukrainian descent?
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:44 PM   #9
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There's no documented evidence that Stalin Did it.
Stalin (Djugashvili) was a Jew. All his wives were Jewesses. He looked like a Jew and acted like a Jew.

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Othe...illAllJews.htm
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:54 PM   #10
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Stalin was not a jew, he was georgian. That's a long discussion I don't want to get into.

But jewish communists that took over Russia in 1917 married jewish women, and they also liked other party patrons to marry jewish women. So Stalin married one, and that doesn't make him a jew. If you think he's a jew you'd have to explain how he purged the whole communist party off jews in the 1930-ies, and why jewish oligarchs hate his guts, and through kosherized "scholars" continue throwing everything but a kitchen sink at him.


PatColo, knock her dead. She's full of it.

I used to live in an Eastern European country pretty large portion of my life. I even have relatives killed during WW2 by germans. Yet, apparently I didn't know that in a city I lived germans had a large concentration camp... No, everyone knew places around. everyone knew villages were burned with people. But hundreds of thousands killed in a camp that mysteriously disappeared? NO WAY, JOSE. Yet, this is a kind of bullshit propaganda cosherized scholars are now pumping into a region.

Now, Holodomor is easy to study. It was more of a famine, on that same year that this lady is going to put into her "documnetary" Russia also had significant shortages of food, it was a famine harvest.

http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2...ake-holodomor/

http://history.wvu.edu/faculty_staff...oviet_articles

The plan is to make sure Ukraine HATES Russia with all its guts, just like Poland does. The TPTB want Ukraine and it 40% of all European chernozems (black soils, extremely fertile lands; that's besides the oil and gas pipelines going across Ukraine to Europe). They don't want Ukraine to look back East to Russia as an Ally.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:08 PM   #11
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Josef Stalin, a Georgian, becomes Premier of the Soviet Union. Joseph Stalin’s real name is Djugashvili, which translates from Georgian as, “son of a Jew.” In the Georgian language, “shvili,” means son of, and, “Djuga,” means Jew. Stalin also has three wives in his lifetime. Ekaterina Svanidze, Kadya Allevijah, and Rosa Kaganovich, all of them Jewesses. Interestingly Stalin passes a law during his premiership that resulted in anyone found guilty of anti-Semitism being sentenced to death.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/A.../1920-1935.htm


We already know Jews invented, financed, promoted and implemented communism as a tool to gain control. It seems highly doubtful that they would have relinquished such control to a goy.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:09 PM   #12
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Josef Stalin, a Georgian, becomes Premier of the Soviet Union. Joseph Stalin’s real name is Djugashvili, which translates from Georgian as, “son of a Jew.” In the Georgian language, “shvili,” means son of, and, “Djuga,” means Jew.[/url]
Well, I said I don't want to get into it.

You aren't even right about "shvili" , and fully wrong about "djuga". "shvili", besides son, has other meanings, such as "knight" or "nobel".
Georgian word for hebew or jew is "Ebrei" , not "djuga".
"djuga" in georgian meens either "steel" or "joe", there's also another pronunciation of that part "djoga" or "joga", which is closer to at least slavic spelling, which also means "herd" in ossetin language (nationality in that region).
he's basically "a son of a herder", "son of an iron worker" or something similar.

The other versions of translations from georgian: djuga "from village Djugaani". also if you fully translate to russian "djuga" = russian name "yura" (yuriy) which has georgian equivalent "george", so he could be "son of george" for all we know.

you've been seeing too many gosts of jews.

Again, I am not a big fan of a man, but you'd have to explain why he purged communist party of almost every jew, put them all in concentration camps. and now he's the evilest white guy along with Hitler - that is "according to well renowned jew scholars". Both, by the way, were purging their countries of jew scum.

Josef Stalin, a Georgian, becomes Premier of the Soviet Union. We already know Jews invented, financed, promoted and implemented communism as a tool to gain control. Jew bankers, including Warburgs and Schiffs, financed Lenin (also not jewish although stories have him a 1/4 or less jewish blood) and Stalin (georgian). If yo examine how dirty deeds are done by the jew bankers, they are rarely at the helm of enterprises such as a country. Look: OBAMA, jewish boy, BLACK. This has been modus operandy of a jew forewer, since even before Khazarian Kaganat, since Egypt (that one's in Bible). SO, if you read history, jewish bankers planned Trotsky-Bronshtein to head USSR. It just luckily happened so that Trotsky was badly sick at the main elections, and his FULLY JEWISH delegation lost "election" to Stalin's group.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:11 PM   #13
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Again, I am not a big fan of a man, but you'd have to explain why he purged communist party of almost every jew, put them all in concentration camps. and now he's the evilest white guy along with Hitler - that is "according to well renowned jew scholars". Both, by the way, were purging their countries of jew scum.
Both were allegedly purging their countries of Jews. Again CUI BONO?

We all know that not all Jews are overtly Jewish. Many are covert Jews, or Marranos. When you have someone in a key position in a Jew movement like communism, who looks like a Jew, has Jewish wives and kills off the blond haired, blue eyed Germanic sector of his population by the tens of thousands, you can rest assured that he's a Jew. Why would Jews, after inventing, financing, promoting and implementing communism in Russia hand their power over to a goy? It makes no sense. They had ABSOLUTE POWER AND SECRECY in USSR. They didn't hand their power over to a goy, they handed it over to a Marrano.

Of course Jews didn't want credit for communism. They had to distance themselves from it by making up stories of "purges" that never happened.


Jew bankers, including Warburgs and Schiffs, financed Lenin (also not jewish although stories have him a 1/4 or less jewish blood) and Stalin (georgian). Have you ever known a "1/4 Christian"? How about a "1/4 Muslim"?

What do you think happens when a Marrano Jew marries an overt Jew? They don't want to expose the ancestry of the whole Marrano family. They call him a "half-Jew". Jews go to great lenths to prevent their people from intermarrying with goys (unless it's a strategic marriage with royalty or something). When you have a "Half-Jew" or "Quarter-Jew" in a key position like Lenin, you can bet it means he's 1/4 overt Jew and 3/4 covert Jew.

Communism was a Jewish maneover in attempt to conquer the world using the politics of envy, class warfare. It almost worked. The biggest obstacle, White men, turned out to be unsurmountable so they backtracked and distanced themselves from it with disinformation. Don't be bamboozled by it.

http://whale.to/c/lazar_kaganovich1.html
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Jews.and.Communism.htm
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html
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