The truth about waking people up
 

It's never going to happen. Most people want 2 things:
1. To be led by authority (authority must be accepted by large numbers of people to qualify as authority).
2. To be accepted.

Look at what we are 'offering'. Whatever dialectic or ism or belief system they embrace, it provides fellowship and it provides security to them. Expose their ism/dialectic/belief system as false=blow up their world.
=Indictment on them...poor judgment.
=Estrange them from their people.
All for 'truth' that is not accepted as 'truth' until repercussions of that 'truth' are accepted as part of the deal.

The physiological response to the repercussions of knowledge is fear.
The psychological responses to fear are defense mechanisms like denial, rationalization, intellectualization, et al. We've all seen them. Then it's game over.

There there is us. We are the outliers. Do we wake each other up, or do we help each other along?
Regardless, we CAN'T become authority figures in order to offer some 'legitimacy' that human nature tends to crave. To obtain that legitimacy, we'd have to do what the bad guys do. Then we become like the bad guys and there is no need to wake anyone up anymore; we are now predators. And that is the paradox of this world.

I believe Jesus spoke of this paradox: "But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first."
Matthew 19:30

dys

qft

Nothing motivates me more.

I daresay you have no established duty to wake anybody up unless you run a telephone wakeup service.

If you mess with others business don't find them quick to thank you. I expect the opposite will happen.

I relate the problem to farming. If the neighbor starts something new I will be there with my elbows on the fencepost watching. If he continues to do it for 5 years then he might be on to something because doing it is worth his while and then I might incorporate his methods into mine. More than likely though he was just experimenting with something new and will stop after several years because he finds it doesn't pay.

I would not even dream about interfering with the process.

We have the moral duty to expose the truth. I will do just that until I'm dead.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. I take satisfaction in trying to enlighten people, especially family and friends. I'm sure some of it has stuck. That doesn't mean anyone else is obligated to do so. But I don't see it as futile at all. Even though the enlightened are still a clear minority, they number a good 10x from just five years ago.

So you know how the original Occupy speeches were about anti-capitalism and anti-greed and providing more assistance to the 99%? I watched the SF Occupy rally last night on C-Span, where anyone was allowed to speak for a couple of minutes. Creeping into the old message were these new ideas:

- The two-party system has forsaken us; there's no difference between Obama and Bush.
- Perhaps we shouldn't even bother to vote because it's just legitimizing the current system.
- We need to make changes on a local level and in our own best interest, rather than rely on big government. Perhaps its best to just ignore big government entirely.
- We need to listen to minority voices like Ron Paul, who sees things for what they really are.
- Take your money out of the big banks so that they can't screw you.
- The Democrats and the corporations are co-opting our Occupy movement; we can't let that happen.
- The Fed is abusing its power.

Does any of this sound familiar? Remember, these are the so-called Occupy Idiots from just 9 months ago.

Yep, the bigger the ship the slower she turns.

Im going to go ahead and agree with all of those points. It looks like the OWS people may be getting a clue. The only explanation is they've been reading this board!

I don't think it's useless, and I believe that I am proof. I might not be as aware/awake as some are here, but I sure have learned a lot since first arriving on GIM (RIP) with an interest in precious metals. I was then very resistant to entertain some of the bigger conspiracies, and I had not considered preparing for anything outside of a hurricane. I have an awakening that is slow, but now certainly evident, looking back 4.5 years. My awakening continues.

It's been said before, but it's worth repeating - the key is to plant seeds, and let the flower grow at it's own pace. A person is more likely to reject an idea if it's too strong, too frightening, too far outside of their world-view than they are to reject something that makes sense to them now. That little seed (or multiple little seeds) might just hang around in the back of their mind until something happens in the world that makes them as big questions to themselves. That's when the fertilization begins - not when we beat them over the head with a hammer.

I do not personally feel it is my duty to wake people up to the grand conspiracy (although after a few martini's I have tried). I am more concerned with getting family, friends, co-workers, and even acquaintances to think about all things financial and prep. People feel very strongly about money (either type: real or fictional). I've been met with some resistance from friends. One told me that she just didn't want to know "all of that stuff", and I respect her wishes. I've also motivated a few others getting into precious metals and long term food storage. So my record is 4-1-everyone else (Win-Loss-Tie).

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. So, let's just concentrate on leading them to water. They will drink if they want to.

Asleep people are DANGEROUS people.
That's why I'll never give up trying to wake them... carefully of course!

Good post, K-os. Some people refer to it as "comfort zones" They are comfortable believing and eating what they are accustomed to. Anything new is uncomfortable and anything old is comfortable regardless of the merits of either. In those rare instances that they try something new they usually become comfortable with them after a short while.
The idea is to stretch those comfort zones a little at a time.
Although this sounds difficult to some, remember that denial is always a little awkward no matter how well they fake it.

Lead a horse to water and let him think he led himself. Then he will drink.

Please do not think I am trying to emulate the above non-post.

But for what ever reason this movie was made it's words ring true to me on this subject.

No... they just "appear to be" fucking idiots posing for staged photographs.

Book... what's your problem? Has your wealthy homeowners association presidency failed to make you "all that you can be" somehow? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/huh.gif

You'd have to be a COMPLETE FUCKING MORON these days to deny "conspiracy theory" (it's not a "theory" when it's OPENLY PROCLAIMED)... or think it's not something that we ALL need to WAKE THE FUCK UP to! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/shocked.gif

Are you?

Actually, at some level Book's two photos do represent people that are already awake. Both pictures show people deriving direct simple pleasures from some local and personal activity that does not involve corporate oversight or media manipulation or government intervention. Don't confuse every person who appears to be enjoying life as some naive slob who has no clue about reality. If you can't structure some type of personal happiness or satisfaction for yourself, then you become a slave to your own awareness.

The truth is that people can be woken up. But rarely will you wake them up "all the way".

Yes, people are followers. If you are persuasive, you can pretty easily convince them that "shit is fucked up" and sometimes they even let you do the "and here's why" part.

But very few are going to stay up nights (like I do, like you do) researching it.

But in their hearts, they'll know that you were right.

One day, the moment may come when they can change things. And they just might do it.




This is a multi-generational project. We are gathering steam with a grain of salt.

It's happening.

P.S. Dysgenic your point about the most efficent (but ultimately pointless) way to change things being by becoming/joining the bad guys is very well taken. I think a lot of politicians get started that way, "I'll get into power and change things when I have it." but it doesn't work like that...the dark side changes you, you do not change it.

But like I said above, we are getting to the point where people are learning to ignore the darkside...we are undoing a lot of the damage....

I'm optimistic about the future. In my lifetime, I get to see one of the greatest crossroads in history.

I have started a lot of people down the path of "waking up" successfully. The thing about waking people up is this: The truth is the truth. When you show people that everything you are telling them is true and have proofs, the either put up their dukes or pull back into their turtle shell. Like K-os and a few others have said: It's about leading horses to water.

Some people respond like K-os' mother. My brother has the same attitude. He is scared to know the depths of the conspiracy, and willfully chooses to not acknowledge it. We've had words over it. At the time, I was going through the phase where I had to tell everyone, so it was hard to back off because family is #1 and I felt the duty to wake him up.
Since then I have learned that leading a horse to water is one thing, but standing there beside the horse, yelling at it, telling it that it has to drink is counter productive.

Hoarder said it best: We have a moral obligation. Mankind is at stake. Especially white mankind.

Gaillo also brings up a good and valid point: Blue pillers can be/will be dangerous WTSHTF. They are going to be the ones who feel the shit more than anyone else. They are used to a life of blue collar luxury, and when they are down to 1 meal instead of 4, they will lash out in the wrong directions because they are misinformed or just totally lost in the matrix. They will not know who caused this uncomfortable change in their lifestyle, who the real enemy is, how to get by without all the NWO amenities such as McDonalds, Wal-mart and Home Depot. They will be the first to panic and take from the wrong people, turn on each other, smash and grab from storefronts, etc.

So yeah: Continue trying to wake people up.

You know very well that Book did not post those pictures in that context. He is a non-contributer.

[QUOTE=Sparky;519015]Actually, at some level Book's two photos do represent people that are already awake. Both pictures show people deriving direct simple pleasures from some local and personal activity that does not involve corporate oversight or media manipulation or government intervention. Don't confuse every person who appears to be enjoying life as some naive slob who has no clue about reality. [B]If you can't structure some type of personal happiness or satisfaction for yourself, then you become a slave to your own awareness.[/[/B]QUOTE]




EXACTAMUNDO wise man !
I WILL NEVER forsake my happiness for the gloom bubble surrounding me now or in the future !
Preach it Sparky ! Stellar post !!

Reality is scary, truth, while liberating is frightening. The pursuit of waking people up isn't easy because what you're essentially asking them to do is admit that life as they know it is a lie, a fraud and they've been stupid, willing accomplices to the whole charade. It's not an easy thing to have to admit to yourself and sadly many or most won't until the ugly facts are one day staring them in the face, making denial impossible.

Why don't you just SAY it then. This is a discussion forum, not a picture-based show and tell.