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Old 02-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #1
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Default Ron Paul secretly won the caucuses
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._caucuses.html
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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I wonder what the opposition is gonna do now that the cats out the bag?

You keep hearing this "organization" and "organized" when talking about campaigns.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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I wonder what the opposition is gonna do now that the cats out the bag?

You keep hearing this "organization" and "organized" when talking about campaigns.
I guess their problem is that although they allegedly get something like 80% of the vote on average, these voters are not willing to do anything re their candidate... The reasons for that is many. It could be that the voter was dead, hospitalized or in an insane asylum, or non-existent, or that they just went and voted for what the media told them would be the least evil of choices, not having mentioned Ron Paul at all. The common denominator is that these voters are not motivated to do anything. I don't think this is likely to change...
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:22 PM   #4
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A + for find and topic.

Why did this thread disappear so fast ?

MR, what are your thoughts on all of this ?


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Edit, removed quote, easier to read.
Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates TRUTH RULES !

REUTERS !

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...012+BW20120208

* Reuters is not responsible for the content in this press release.

Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:35pm EST

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates

Campaign is well-positioned in delegate race


The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign released the following statement regarding the results of yesterday’s election results. See comments from Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Manager John Tate.

“We are thrilled with yesterday’s results. Our campaign to Restore America continues to gain ground, and we are poised to pick up even more delegates from Minnesota and Colorado adding to our delegates in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

“As people across the country view the results of yesterday’s contests, it is important to consider a few facts that have not been clearly reported. Not one single delegate was awarded last night, instead the caucuses in Minnesota and Colorado were the very first step in the delegate selection process. And there are still over 40 states left to go. The Ron Paul campaign plans to continue to vie for delegates nationwide.

“There are a few significant takeaways from yesterday’s contests to remember:
1)
The Missouri primary means nothing. It was a non-binding beauty contest, and the contest that matters in the ‘show me’ state won’t take place for another month. The Ron Paul campaign is well positioned to win delegates in Missouri’s caucus a month from now.
2)
As in Iowa where not 1 of the 28 delegates has been awarded yet, in Colorado and Nevada the Paul campaign will do very well in the state delegate counts. We will have good numbers among the actual delegates awarded, far exceeding our straw poll numbers.
3)
In Minnesota where we have finished a solid second, we also have a strong majority of the state convention delegates, and the process to elect delegates has also just begun, the Paul campaign is well-organized to win the bulk of delegates there.

“We are confident in gaining a much larger share of delegates than even our impressive showing yesterday indicates. As an example of our campaign’s delegate strength, take a look at what has occurred in Colorado:

In one precinct in Larimer County, the straw poll vote was 23 for Santorum, 13 for Paul, 5 for Romney, 2 for Gingrich. There were 13 delegate slots, and Ron Paul got ALL 13.

In a precinct in Delta County the vote was 22 for Santorum, 12 for Romney, 8 for Paul, 7 for Gingrich. There were 5 delegate slots, and ALL 5 went to Ron Paul.

In a Pueblo County precinct, the vote was 16 for Santorum, 11 for Romney, 3 for Gingrich and 2 for Paul. There were 2 delegate slots filled, and both were filled by Ron Paul supporters.

We are also seeing the same trends in Minnesota, Nevada, and Iowa, and in Missouri as well.

“We may well win Minnesota, and do far better in Colorado than yesterday’s polls indicate.

“In the latest national poll from Reuters/Ipsos Poll, Ron Paul places a strong second with 21 percent, gaining ground on his main competitor nationally, Mitt Romney, whose support seems to be fading at 29 percent. Congressman Paul’s support has grown by 5 percentage points nationally since January, while Romney has seen a 30 percent decline in his support since January.

“This poll follows a January 30th Gallup Poll showing Dr. Paul within the margin of error of defeating Obama. Also, a January 16th CNN/ORC Poll showed Congressman Paul and Obama in a virtual tie in a general election showdown.

“Yesterday’s contests were significant, but not a decisive or a conclusive end to this race. Our campaign will keep pushing forward and continue to take our message of liberty all the way to the convention. This race after all is about delegates, not about beauty contests.”

Authorized and paid for by Ron Paul 2012 PCC Inc. www.RonPaul2012.com

Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee
Gary Howard, 855-563-6620



FROM SLATE ! leftist controlled media covering this too


Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._caucuses.html

By David Weigel
| Posted Wednesday, Feb. 8, 2012, at 5:53 PM ET

They all laughed at Ron Paul. They all laughed when he took a stage in Minnesota, having come in a solid second place, and reminded the faithful of a "little thing called delegates!"

They were serious about it. Paul's people believe that they understand the delegate process, and that the media does not. There is truth here: The delegate process is confusing, and I assume that Paul supporters have used their four years of organizing and studying in a fruitful manner. In an e-mail to supporters, they try to get granular about what's occuring.We are confident in gaining a much larger share of delegates than even our impressive showing yesterday indicates. As an example of our campaign’s delegate strength, take a look at what has occurred in Colorado:- In one precinct in Larimer County, the straw poll vote was 23 for Santorum, 13 for Paul, 5 for Romney, 2 for Gingrich. There were 13 delegate slots, and Ron Paul got ALL 13.

- In a precinct in Delta County the vote was 22 for Santorum, 12 for Romney, 8 for Paul, 7 for Gingrich. There were 5 delegate slots, and ALL 5 went to Ron Paul.

- In a Pueblo County precinct, the vote was 16 for Santorum, 11 for Romney, 3 for Gingrich and 2 for Paul. There were 2 delegate slots filled, and both were filled by Ron Paul supporters.

- We are also seeing the same trends in Minnesota, Nevada, and Iowa, and in Missouri as well.For this to stick, Paul's activists have to show up at the next votes -- small affairs, not much media, happening in March -- and control the delegate process. Then they have to show up at conventions and repeat it. This is actually doable.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:43 PM   #5
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My thoughts on this is there there better be a spiritual awakening in this country (and subsequently elect Dr. Paul) or else there will be a world of hurt descend on this country and the world the likes of which defy the imagination. Therefore pray for Dr. Paul, his family, and his supporters.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:00 PM   #6
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Perhaps I am retarded; but I do not understand the popular vote versus delegate thing. How does one win the popular vote and not win most of the delegates?
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:07 PM   #7
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Perhaps I am retarded; but I do not understand the popular vote versus delegate thing. How does one win the popular vote and not win most of the delegates?
Some recent primaries (beauty contests) were non-binding, local caucuses is where the delegates will get picked up, and most likely the media will give little attention to those caucuses esp. if Dr. Paul does well.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:09 PM   #8
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My understanding is that voting is just a bunch of local people getting together to decide who will vote for what they want in the county delegate vote. Those local delegates then get together and decide who in the county will do the same thing for them in their state in the convention.

If every voter was equally diligent, the popular vote would match what the delegates do because they would ensure the local guys they send out to the county are actually solid supporters of their chosen candidate instead of voting and leaving.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #9
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Perhaps I am retarded; but I do not understand the popular vote versus delegate thing. How does one win the popular vote and not win most of the delegates?
By the voters, being ignorant and apathetic.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:53 PM   #10
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Some recent primaries (beauty contests) were non-binding, local caucuses is where the delegates will get picked up, and most likely the media will give little attention to those caucuses esp. if Dr. Paul does well.
SO it appears that Paul could win the most delegates even after Romney and Sanctimonius_moron won the most primaries? How would this play out? Doesn't the candidates with the most delegates win the nomination?
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:58 PM   #11
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SO it appears that Paul could win the most delegates even after Romney and Sanctimonius_moron won the most primaries? How would this play out? Doesn't the candidates with the most delegates win the nomination?
Yep thats who wins.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:09 PM   #12
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It's not widely known but this is how Obama won the last election...it is ALL about the delegates.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:11 PM   #13
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So what is the real count.... or is that in the ether until the actual vote?
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:15 PM   #14
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So what is the real count.... or is that in the ether until the actual vote?
So far it's still unknown, at least until the state conventions meet, then we'll have hard numbers.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:15 PM   #15
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Yeah Baby!!
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:02 PM   #16
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it will be interesting to see what happens if the Repugs have a brokered convention.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who would clearly kick Obama's ass - which would put a Republican in the White House.

BUT - the Zionista's don't care if there's a Republican in the White House. They want a Zionist in the White House.

i guess it's not exactly going out on a limb that if there's a brokered convention, the result will be D-Zionist vs. R.-Zionist - thereby guaranteeing a Zionist President.


i would love to see Republican loyalty trump Zionist loyalty. if they're honest they would then choose Ron Paul.
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