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Old 02-29-2012, 05:19 PM   #1
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Default Hold on to the Constitution
Daniel Webster had vision -

"Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world."
- Daniel Webster
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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It's sad but amazing that as we've supposedly become so much more educated we can't fathom the common sense wisdom our forefathers had, at least in the present majority.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:04 PM   #3
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I believe it is all since the implementation of TeeVee, if you look into historey that has not been erased again you will see that our grandparents with 3rd grade educations were much more educated than we (at least I) are.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:11 PM   #4
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That's because "education" is "programming".
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:40 PM   #5
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TV is one of the tools used to push the agenda of modernizing the Constitution.
The movement to make the constitution seem antiquated is quite successful, as Spectrism can attest based on his post about being in New York and talking to blue pillers.

Defend it with everything you have!
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:16 PM   #6
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F*** Daniel Webster. He and his fellow Whigs led the charge to destroy the constitution and implement corporatism.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:28 PM   #7
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just who in the hell going to stop this ............... not a fucking one
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:58 PM   #8
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F*** Daniel Webster. He and his fellow Whigs led the charge to destroy the constitution and implement corporatism.
It seems in conflict with the OP, care to elaborate?
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:35 AM   #9
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They just want to make constitutional changes without getting the required 75% of the states to agree to it because they know it won't work.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:35 AM   #10
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Repeal the 17th Amendment
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:59 AM   #11
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It seems in conflict with the OP, care to elaborate?
Throughout the history of the US, those most intent on destroying the constitution have been the most vocal about defending it as long as they can make you think it means something it doesn't. The supreme court is a prime example.

Read "The Real Lincoln" by DiLorenzo for a more complete narrative of the history of the Whigs. Here's the condensed version:

The "American System" was an idea thought of by Henry Clay as a great opportunity to get graft by using the force of government to transfer money to large corporations and to politicians under the guise of "improvements and infrastructure". Railroads figured prominantly in this scheme, but it involved much more. The Whig party was the political arm of this government/industrial complex, and eventually evolved into the Republican party. Webster was a Whig and a huge supporter of Clay, as was Lincoln.

Finally, after Lincoln won the election, the southern states decided they had enough a decided to secede and form a new nation based on the original ideals of the US. Lincoln and his cronies realized that without the cheap raw materials and agricultural products from the south, as well as a large tax base, the system of graft would fall apart. So he invaded and goaded the CSA into war in order to keep the scheme going.

150 years later, the names have changed, and the system is much bigger, but it's really just more of the same thing that started with the Whig party.
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:20 AM   #12
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The Constitution is a CORPORATE mission statement not a guarantee. No person has ever signed their name to it. Slippery stuff.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:13 AM   #13
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Take back our country III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q68N...ature=youtu.be
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:11 AM   #14
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“I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Our landholders, too, like theirs, retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must wander, like theirs, in foreign countries, and be contented with penury, obscurity, exile, and the glory of the nation. This example reads to us the salutary lesson, that private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance.

“And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.”
- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Samuel Kerchival. vii, 14. Ford Ed., x, 41. (M., 1816.)
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