[Seisyvose]

And then there are the ones that just forget to take their meds and develop Trolldaforums Disease where they go to internet forums and try to bug the shit out of people just to do it & derive pleasure from the knowledge that they are annoying. It is their way of releasing their negative emotions.

[R1king]

Glad to see that religion is not being blamed for any of this........halleluya.

[Wachearex]

The first line of defense I most often see employed when a logical argument for 911 Truth is made to sheeple (or shills), is ad-hom ridicule - smear the messenger as whacked-out paranoid tin foil hat off meds lunatic fringe nut-job CTist yada yada. Of course this is an appeal to base emotion, the charge being that the Truther's mental faculties are lacking, and who doesn't fear that about themselves, whether the Truther or any observers of the dialog?

So I was happy when videos like this started being produced by Truthers,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98


... which, rather than taking the usual logic/reason/evidence/science approach to 9/11 Truth, it takes the 9/11 Truth opponents' tact: ridicule of those who believe the Official 9/11 CT.

[Wsjltrhe]

Was the part about the cocaine & pink haired strippers correct?

I didn't remember that

[mypharmalife]

^^ this was another good one, WAC LA responded to Bill Maher's disparagement of 9/11 Truthers,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoJJIYWMZlY

[L0KoxewQ]

The problem is not one of having emotions. The problem occurs when one believes or trusts emotions. This phenomena has been called 'feelings before facts'. Regardless of healthy or unhealthy states of emotion (and I agree that healthy emotions are important, btw), emotions are generally not good indicators of truth. Emotions and truth may be one and the same, but this is correlation and not causation. Reason and logic are far more reliable indicators of truth than emotion.

dys

Are you married ? When a man picks his wife , you mean he's gonna be ALL logical about it ?
Of course he is going to use his brains and logic and smarts and all that good stuff to pick his wife,
but I'm gonna tell you what, that passion, that love, those emotions that he has for her ABOVE all that logic is what is going to make him want her & marry her.
Love is an emotion that people are so afraid of, it's ridiculous.
I trust my emotions. Sorry.
Men & women are different.
There was a post somewhere on this forum that Dr Mamboni posted about how the family orbits around the mother. That was the best post I have ever read on this forum & had to read it like 3 times to believe that a man had actually written that. It blew my mind away.

An emotionally STRONG woman is not afraid to trust her emotions.

I can't really explain what I mean , I can't put it into words.
Everybody has their "guards up" and are so closed off because of prior pain in their life that they make themselves not trust their emotions because they've been hurt so bad, but once you heal from past emotional traumas, you can become an emotionally intelligent being who can rely on emotions in addition to logic .

[Plaumpholavup]

RE: With regard to ethnocentricity, I had in mind the type 'patriotic' (euphemism) thinking that allows for things like justifying undeclared wars, belief in corrupt government officials,

I was thinking of Patriotism, it is logical to be Patriotic, Nationalistic,
for your own culture, people and history. It is after all your extended
family. Patriotism even means literally to " honor your fathers " .
Ethnocentricity is good and healthy and necessary for survival.

I wasn't thinking of wars or manipulating Patriotism or Jewish question.

I think that is what The Prince is all about (I actually have not read it yet; though I bought it many years ago).

The Prince in action is the NeoCons, all you need to know, the ends justifies the means,
it is all about war, power, corruption, manipulation of powers, control, bribery, threats,
killing, playing free city states off of each other, absolutely no rules, to fully understand
The Prince you must understand basic history of the era, the setting, most people do not,
they make assumptions, see bold, I am just pointing this out John. The NeoCons are a perfect example of the attitude/beliefs/ruthlessness in play. Power and control is right, might is right,
at the top, all about control.

[Garry Richardson]

If our emotions and intuition were trustworthy, the advertising industry would not be as successful as it is.

[Amerworma]

If our emotions and intuition were trustworthy, the advertising industry would not be as successful as it is.

Emotions alone no, of course not !

[ruforumczspam]

Are you married ? When a man picks his wife , you mean he's gonna be ALL logical about it ?
Of course he is going to use his brains and logic and smarts and all that good stuff to pick his wife,
but I'm gonna tell you what, that passion, that love, those emotions that he has for her ABOVE all that logic is what is going to make him want her & marry her.
Love is an emotion that people are so afraid of, it's ridiculous.
I trust my emotions. Sorry.
Men & women are different.
There was a post somewhere on this forum that Dr Mamboni posted about how the family orbits around the mother. That was the best post I have ever read on this forum & had to read it like 3 times to believe that a man had actually written that. It blew my mind away.

An emotionally STRONG woman is not afraid to trust her emotions.

I can't really explain what I mean , I can't put it into words.
Everybody has their "guards up" and are so closed off because of prior pain in their life that they make themselves not trust their emotions because they've been hurt so bad, but once you heal from past emotional traumas, you can become an emotionally intelligent being who can rely on emotions in addition to logic .

OHL; I didn't think dys is really talking about love; I thought he was talking about reason and logic being more reliable indicators of truth then emotion.

Did you just make his point?

[SM9WI8oI]

The kind of person who is keenly aware of other people's emotions is often a manipulative person. The less emotional you are the harder it is to manipulate you.

[RotsLoado]

The kind of person who is keenly aware of other people's emotions is often a manipulative person. The less emotional you are the harder it is to manipulate you.

The stronger one is at understanding their emotions is less able to allow themselves to be manipulated.
The less emotionally smart a person is, the more they become unable to defend themselves against their manipulator.

[gghrdfffhfyj]

The stronger one is at understanding their emotions is less able to allow themselves to be manipulated.

The better one is at understanding their emotions, the less emotional one becomes.

[Buyingtime]

The better one is at understanding their emotions, the less emotional one becomes.

Mr Hoarder, you are a very unique individual. I find it extremely interesting the things you say.

[Longwow]

Mr Hoarder, you are a very unique individual. I find it extremely interesting the things you say.

Old Herb Lady,

Hoarder is totally talking about the tribe here, and his related comments.
Applies to other circumstances yes.

Bernays comes to mind, propagandists, tv , advertising.

The kind of person who is keenly aware of other people's emotions is often a manipulative person. The less emotional you are the harder it is to manipulate you.

If our emotions and intuition were trustworthy, the advertising industry would not be as successful as it is.

They do that on forums too, hoarder has experience with that as well.
He is quiet on here.

Mr. Hoarder, we need you go go back to basics sir.

[ulnanVti]

And the next question is .....what is LOGIC and what is EMOTION...........

I dont pretend to know.....

[peveballery]

[...]
... which, rather than taking the usual logic/reason/evidence/science approach to 9/11 Truth, it takes the 9/11 Truth opponents' tact: ridicule of those who believe the Official 9/11 CT.

along the same lines, let's upload esp that 1st 9/11 commish pic to a few sites, so that the image search engines find it & index it, that others may find it and propagate it further.