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ceagstuntee 04-10-2010 11:06 AM

polish president dead
 
Plane crash killed the Polish president, top general and their central banker.

Plane went down inside Russia while trying to land.

tattcasetle 04-10-2010 12:19 PM

Any chance it may have just been a plane crash, with out a conspiracy?

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Elissetecausa 04-10-2010 12:47 PM

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Any chance it may have just been a plane crash, with out a conspiracy?

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Let's hope it wasn't a planned accident. Heard on the news that Mevedev has put Putin in charge of the investigation.

squeerisott 04-10-2010 12:55 PM

Well that is odd. I was under the impression that Putin was calling the shots. Now Mevedev is telling Putin what to do?

exschke 04-10-2010 01:01 PM

Putin is in charge, there is no doubt there. However, he let his term end when election time came to let Medvedev take the PM position, assuming a vice-pm role. Its tough to say you have a democracy when you are dictator for life. No need to step from behind the curtain n this age of television.

Medvedev is the former ceo of gazprom iirc, and Putin is high level FSB.

wrardymar 04-10-2010 01:13 PM

Poland's finance minister Jacek Rostowski has attacked the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for encouraging governments to engage in excessive "stimulus" in 2009

...the finance ministry said the measures the central bank proposed to meet Poland's obligations towards IMF, were "inappropriate"...

don't know if Rostowski was one of those killed in the crash, but there's apparently already damage control going on. some interesting quotes from the telegraph blog:

Polish National TV has already reported journalists’ cameras have been confiscated by the Russian military. One reporter who was interviewed said that there was no fog when the plane attempted to land. ...the same weirdo Conspiracy Theorists were predicting just such a thing a couple of months back, given the good President’s opposition to the European Beast….

Oswczrdz 04-10-2010 01:20 PM

Personally, I think the Kyrgyzstan violence is Russia's doing and I will not be the least bit surprised if it turns out they had a hand in this assassination.

Polish President Lech Kaczynski dies in crash
...Kaczynski, 60 pursued a strongly pro-U.S. foreign policy, in accordance with a cross-party consensus that has grown in Poland since the fall of communism. He was an enthusiastic backer of plans to build a U.S. missile defense facility in the country, the largest of the European Union's new eastern members.

ThzinChang 04-10-2010 01:23 PM

A Polish twitter user:
Half of Poland's government was on that plane.

Polish:
http://twitter.com/VaGla

English:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/0...ial-reactions/

RokeIdeadioke 04-10-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Poland's finance minister Jacek Rostowski has attacked the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for encouraging governments to engage in excessive "stimulus" in 2009

...the finance ministry said the measures the central bank proposed to meet Poland's obligations towards IMF, were "inappropriate"...

don't know if Rostowski was one of those killed in the crash, but there's apparently already damage control going on. some interesting quotes from the telegraph blog:

Polish National TV has already reported journalists’ cameras have been confiscated by the Russian military. One reporter who was interviewed said that there was no fog when the plane attempted to land.
...the same weirdo Conspiracy Theorists were predicting just such a thing a couple of months back, given the good President’s opposition to the European Beast…. Central bank Governor Slawomir Skrzypek was on the plane

Apparently he was against joining the EU and the Euro:
Poland’s central bank’s Slawomir Skrzypek & P.M. Donald Tusk against joining the Euro!

StanWatts 04-10-2010 01:32 PM

flashback, Published: Thursday, September 11, 2008

Russia warns Poland on U.S. missile shield

[quote]Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov of Russia warned Poland .....

"Poland appears not to have understood that it has become a party to a very dangerous game,"

Lavrov also accused the Polish government of "taking revenge on us for defending the Ossetians. This is rather small-minded behavior as well as a political mistake."

Pznrrmaf 04-10-2010 02:17 PM

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jhfsdhf 04-10-2010 02:23 PM

Shami-Amourae,

Nice to see you here!

Cheers,

ST

YpbWF5Yo 04-10-2010 03:51 PM

Interesting that it was a plane crash. I remember reading somewhere that a persons chances of dieing in a plane crash is something like 1 in 10.5 million. Now for an abnormal person like a President who flies more often it may be higher. Regardless if it is 1 in 5 million or 1 in 10 million the chances are still tiny.

Rffkwfct 04-10-2010 03:56 PM

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LOL!!

hernkingAnank 04-10-2010 06:05 PM

Russia angry over US missile shield

Friday, August 15, 2008

Russia has reacted angrily to a deal signed between Warsaw and Washington to station a missile defence system in Poland.

Moscow on Friday said the US had shown that Russia was the true target of the defensive shield, as tension between the two powers continued to rise over the conflict in Georgia.

"The fact that this was signed in a period of very difficult crisis in the relations between Russia and the United States over the situation in Georgia shows that, of course, the missile defence system will be deployed not against Iran but against the strategic potential of Russia," Dmitry Rogozin, Russia's Nato envoy, said.

General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy head of Russia's general staff, warned that Poland was making itself a target for Russia's military "100 per cent" by hosting the defence system.

"It becomes a target for attack. Such targets are destroyed as a first priority," Nogovitsyn said. apparently the airfield the plane went down near was a remote military one.

elects 04-10-2010 06:10 PM

If it was to be, I would guess more towards the shield then the Euro.

How strange would it be for someone to join the Euro at this moment, or ever!

DailyRingtone 04-10-2010 06:48 PM

sounds kinda fishy, I hope its a real accident... but... but

GooogleGuy 04-10-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100410/...ia_plane_crash

This is big. Poland's economy was one of the few doing well in the EU...
Brilliant Polish strategy, load all your leaders into the same pillbox.

The crash devastated the upper echelons of Poland's political and military establishments. On board were the army chief of staff, the navy chief commander, and heads of the air and land forces. Also killed were the national bank president, deputy foreign minister, army chaplain, head of the National Security Office, deputy parliament speaker, Olympic Committee head, civil rights commissioner and at least two presidential aides and three lawmakers, the Polish foreign ministry said.

imporesweemo 04-10-2010 08:11 PM

They got the Larry McDonald treatment.

Immarsecice 04-10-2010 08:25 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if the preident was the target of an assassination here. Word is that he was actually interested in the fate of his people and undermined the all-seeing eye.


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