[Orefsmisits]

First of all, It was the Nazi regime, not the "German nation", and seconds you should clean up your own closet before speaking those big words because in terms of raw numbers, the Native American genocide farly exceeds that of the Holocaust.

edit; At Cubase, i would´t care either

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power. As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

[Pippoles]

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power. As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

Not too different in my eyes. Circumstances may be different and times too. Net result same. Genocide is genocide no matter how you slice it. But as they say, history is written by the victor.

[goldeneggs]

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power. As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

The only connection I can see is that Golem was born in one country with a genocidal past, then moved to another with a much greater genocidal past.

[NowFloabDow]

The only wartime costume that is ever unacceptable is a Nazi one in my opinion. But it was good of you to ask her anyway. Question is; would you have bothered asking if it was a dude? How hot is this chick?

Hahaha, she is actually pretty cute.

[cindygirl]

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power.

Sure, in a time where everything was going to sh!t and nobody really had any answers.
In my eyes, the way you´re trying to present this is as if the German people voted for a party that had "We will commit horrible atrocities against humanity - Vote for us" as a slogan and that just isn´t the case.

As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

As i said, so were the times then too.
Imo the comparison is easily understandable for anyone with an IQ above room temp, so yeah.
btw the list of war crimes and barbarities of the US is long (And the history of the US in itself really isn´t)

[cindygirl]

The only connection I can see is that Golem was born in one country with a genocidal past, then moved to another with a much greater genocidal past.

I get one foot out of the sh!t and step right into the next.

[tattcasetle]

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power. As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

SOME of the German people THEN voted them into power - but many good German people were also Jewish, homosexual, gypsies and other targeted minorities! Yet others suffered for helping these persecuted people to hid and escape the NAZIs. Heck, there was a lot of support for the NAZIs in America and a lot who were 'just' anti-semitic.
I'm not sure that you'd find as many people, THEN, who stood up for and aided the 'native' people of the North American continent - we should be judging the people NOW on what they are doing NOW, not what people living in the past did in their past.


Back on topic, you could both dress up as people from Cabaret - especially if she's attractive.

[TessUnsonia]

The German people voted the Nazi regime into power. As for the Native American genocide, those were far different times and vastly different circumstances. I'm not condoning it, but to draw the comparison here is laughable.

[erepsysoulpfbs]

TOO MANY voted the Nazis into power. That fact shouldnt be forgotten. This "just a few" myth really needs to die. This country as a whole totally failed to uphold its democratic achievements which had been established after WW1. And many many people wanted the nazis in power even though they didnt think of something like the holocaust could happen later on. But even when they (the grey masses) got aware of that they did nothing to stop it.

With this being said...

BUT, this has nothing to do with my (our) generation, and therefore anybody who tries to connect me with the Nazis can go f**k themselves. So there is no reason for a German person of my generation to be offended by a US WW2 military uniform.

Edit: Come to think of it, we could need some breathing room in Poland though...

[Rupeviv]

As far as I know Germany was a true cluster-**** before Hitler got into power, they did throw him into jail once and it made him smarter and when he made his move the people in charge had no political means to stop him. Germany had pretty much collapsed, Hitler said he could make it all right again. Sure the Germans knew Hitler didn't like Jews, but he never actually gained a majority vote by fair means.

He manipulated the system to get power he needed, removed safe guards that got in his way and removed rivals in inventive ways, just before an election, the Communist party found itself in jail. He still didn't hold a majority so he took out the Socialist Democratic party too. So no, it wasn't like one day he turned up and said vote for me! It was just a smarter Coup, with better picked targets and a different kind of gun.

[erepsysoulpfbs]

Only too bad that the majority in the parlament even though BEING the political majority didnt stop him but approved his changes of the law. These representatives were elected by the people.

Of course, factors such as the (partially unfair) restrictions from the loss of WW1 and the economical crisis from 1929 helped him alot, but still, you cant say the population as a whole was "overwhelmed" or anything and woke up one day with guns in their faces from the NSDAP.

Nazi Germany could have been prevented at so many points in the years 1930 to 1933 its almost a joke (if it hadnt turned into such horror later on) that Hitler made it into power.

[clubcughSheet]

Thread hijack [offtopic] [ban] - wasn't Bungle exiled/excommunicated/outprisoned (my own word ) from the onion community a long time ago? I remember humor from those times for some reason... and Bungle kept coming back again and again... like Apocalypse from X-Men... Bungle was and apparently is eternal...

Is this the same Bungle?

[Rupeviv]

You're right about Germany being able to stop it, but I think they were all so happy that someone was actually fixing things that by time they woke up all they could do was hope he got them through the war and maybe quietly kill him afterwards. I think everyone knew he had to go, but they were neck deep in **** once he turned on Russia.

[tattcasetle]

Are you suggesting the MODs Bungled in letting him back?
Not sure how that fits into the thread topic, though?

[cindygirl]

You're right about Germany being able to stop it, but I think they were all so happy that someone was actually fixing things that by time they woke up all they could do was hope he got them through the war and maybe quietly kill him afterwards. I think everyone knew he had to go, but they were neck deep in **** once he turned on Russia.

The problem was once he was in power he became a juggernaut, getting in his way or just voicing critic quickly became something that you could easily pay for with your life.

[Pa33anger]

The problem was once he was in power he became a juggernaut, getting in his way or just voicing critic quickly became something that you could easily pay for with your life.

I find the re-election of G.W Bush far more ridiculous especially in today's connected and informed world.

[JMLot]

I find the re-election of G.W Bush far more ridiculous especially in today's connected and informed world.

It's not as though the democrats had any viable alternatives at the time. Re-electing Berlusconi was a much bigger WTF IMO.

[Rupeviv]

The problem was once he was in power he became a juggernaut, getting in his way or just voicing critic quickly became something that you could easily pay for with your life.

I totally agree, in the end it was so bad the Germans were happy to see the Allies, proably not so happy to see the Russians however.

[Pa33anger]

It's not as though the democrats had any viable alternatives at the time. Re-electing Berlusconi was a much bigger WTF IMO.

Agreed and agreed.

[Orefsmisits]

As i said, so were the times then too.
Imo the comparison is easily understandable for anyone with an IQ above room temp, so yeah.
btw the list of war crimes and barbarities of the US is long (And the history of the US in itself really isn´t)

Ridiculous. Germany's main purpose was genocide over the course of six years; the US genocide was the outcome of 150 years of territorial conquests. They are completely different circumstances.