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Old 05-28-2008, 09:11 AM   #1
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Default McClellan's tell all is not warm & fuzzy
McClellan asserts that the aides — Karl Rove, the president’s senior adviser, and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff — “had at best misled” him about their role in the disclosure of former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity. Would have sworn it wasn't either one of them that was the source of the leak?
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:17 AM   #2
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“Neither, I believe, did President Bush. He, too, had been deceived and therefore became unwittingly involved in deceiving me. But the top White House officials who knew the truth — including Rove, Libby and possibly Vice President Cheney — allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie.” They were all in on it except Bush and poor Scott All these lies and Bush never gets mad at the liars, doesn't fire them, doesn't even acknowledge their lies, he's done nothing but cover for them. But he was out of the loop...

Would have sworn it wasn't either one of them that was the source of the leak? Reporters have sworn they leaked - sworn under oath apparently.
And both of them leaked, where did you get the idea only 1 person can leak information?
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:22 PM   #3
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Not that Bush needed any more bad press, but this just helps confirm what most people know already.
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:28 PM   #4
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So, good 'ole Scottie was just following orders. Heckuva job, there, pal. Thanks a lot. And now you will try to get rich on a "tell all" that is years late and billions short. **** you.

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Old 05-28-2008, 06:55 PM   #5
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Agathon, don't you realize that in puritan America, sex is always considered worse than violence?

Stylized nudity in the Starbucks logo gets threatened with a boycott, but stylized violence with armored, overmuscular men with a penchant for real-life crime piling on top of each other in a homoerotic fashion over a leather object? That's perfectly okay.

Hot Coffee gets the third degree, gets plastered all over the news; Mass Effect's sex scenes are the crux of the controversy. The violence in those games? Passing mention.

The gay theme kicks But I'm a Cheerleader to a rated R; a wisp of sexuality in Amelie sends it to R-land. Live Free or Die Hard? PG-13.

Thus, lying about things and heading to war, okay; lying about things and getting a blowjob... what'll I tell my children?!
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:30 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Berzerker


They were all in on it except Bush and poor Scott All these lies and Bush never gets mad at the liars, doesn't fire them, doesn't even acknowledge their lies, he's done nothing but cover for them. But he was out of the loop... You forgot to say that when one is convicted of perjury, he's quickly pardoned.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:38 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Oerdin
All the Bush administration thralls seem to fit into 3 categories: The Evil, who actively aid and abeit the administration's crimes (Ari Fleisher); the Moronic, who have no capacity for independent thinking (Dana Perino, Douglas Feith), and the Cowardly, who recognize what's going on but won't speak out about it until after they're out of office and have books to peddle. McClellan seems to fit both the second and third categories. Christine Todd Whitman doesn't fall into any of those categories.
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:29 PM   #8
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IIRC, she had some integrity, cuz she resigned over how the Bush Administration was treating the EPA and the environment.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:25 PM   #9
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And so the typical republican character assassination of those who point out their mistakes begins.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:49 PM   #10
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Originally posted by DaShi
And so the typical republican character assassination of those who point out their mistakes begins. Oh please! It's so obvious. This guy is slime. That doesn't excuse Bush & Co. at all, but this fellow is no hero. Those who refused to defend this administration - those who had the courage to resign & speak out AT THE TIME are deserving of respect. I spit on this guy.

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Old 05-29-2008, 12:05 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Q Cubed

Hot Coffee gets the third degree, gets plastered all over the news; Doesn't that just show the idiocy of raving rightwing bloggers like Michelle Malkin? OMG a commercial for iced coffee shows a woman wearing a high fashion scarf so clearly she supports terrorism!
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:47 AM   #12
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Originally posted by rah
yes he never knew a thing.
They were all bad but I was pure. Feith has made the same ludocriss claim that "it's everyone else's fault but mine!"
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:51 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Oerdin

Feith has made the same ludocriss claim that "it's everyone else's fault but mine!" They need to die. Either by judicial means or by an angry public stringing them up from lamp posts. Only when those in power fear the people is there any prospect of justice.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:16 AM   #14
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Scottie will be on Olbermann this Thursday night (tomorrow)
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:17 AM   #15
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I'm saying that I don't believe he was ignorant of what was going on so he has to consider himself part of the problem. I always find it interesting that people like this don't speak up right away (some say out of loyalty) but as soon as it's time make money off of it, yes it was a scandal of huge proportions so buy my book and read all about it. Yes, some of the things he states have the ring of truth about them, but they would sound a lot more credible if he admitted that he knew something about what was going on at the time. If the man was that stupid that he didn't realize it, the credibility of what he says later is quite suspect.

But I haven't read everything so I'll reserve some judgement but on the surface I'm not going to lap it all up as truth from an insider.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:54 PM   #16
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Yep, no common elements here.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:00 PM   #17
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this admin is hiring people who cannot think so I am not actually surprised that it took Scotty this much time to figure out what was going on...

it's like the Borg with Karl and Dick being central command.. all the others - drones... one just woke up now
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:37 AM   #18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc57o0E_kA8

Actual interview with Scottie. Pay close attention to the last 30 seconds where he says Bush admitted to authorizing the leak of Plame's identity something which Bush has publicly denied and pretended not to know about. It's a clear cut case of bush lying to the American people, committing a crime for political reasons, and then attempting to cover it up.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:01 PM   #19
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I think Jon Stewart's take on this topic summed it up nicely, something along the lines of "the most shocking revelation is that McClellan thinks these are actually shocking revelations."
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:38 AM   #20
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Hannity joined the flagellation today on FAUX news. Seems McClellan is considering "joining the Obama campaign".
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