[peemovvie]

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2. Numerous developers have announced their support for the PS3: Capcom, Konami, SquareEnix, Majesco, Namco, Electronic Arts, Koei, Rockstar, Bandai, Sonic Team (Sega), and many others.

You can get all the support you want but when it takes too long to produce a game vs. jumping ship and make more profits, I think it's going to be no brainer if it's true.

[Zysyewgg]

Quote, originally posted by JBlair »
The PSP will link to the PS3 as well. (ever wonder why there are 7 available wireless links for the PS3?)

Actually, the PS3 has 7 Bluetooth recievers for the controllers and USB ports for additional controllers. The PSP, which has no Bluetooth (only WiFi) would be connecting through USB.

[ErnestTU]

yea, as long as you are playing on an Imax screen....I hate playing with 4 people...4 people is bad enough, let alone 8...Having that many people on one screen would be a *****...

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Quote, originally posted by Nick »i think you mean 2 per tv, which wouldn't be too bad, but still, thats rediculous, buying 4 tv's just to accomodate 8 players? or whatever it may be...kinda silly if you ask me, but there are diehards out there who will probably do it...don't get me wrong, I think having up to 8 controllers on a game console is great (and a big jump from sony always having only 2 controllers) but they need to take into consideration 8 people on a screen would suck...then again, it's not like you have to have 8...but still, why bother...
No, I mean 4, because it has a total capacity of 14 controllers.

[Byxtysaaqwuz]

I still think the most interesting/ironic/amusing part of the next gen systems will be how many 360's are sold... because Apple of all people actually gets royalties on each one from the processor.
The article was interesting, and has a few decent points, but its mostly a rant full of fluff. Still, though the PSP comments may be an exaggeration, the thing still did have MAJOR quality issues on launch, which has hurt Sony's image considerably. The units shipping recently have been much betterm from what I've hard, but the damage was done.

[ErnestTU]

It's even more ironic that no matter how many PS3's or 360's sell, IBM gets a cut outta everything...if 360's have apple parts in them, IBM makes apple stuff...IBM is also the maker of the setups for the PS3's correct? Speaking of IBM, they took over Disney IT department, laying off lots of people, but they kept my dad and he said he will be able to get great deals on all IBM stuff....hmmm...I wonder...

[tsamprasxx]

ok

[Zysyewgg]

Quote, originally posted by Santeno »That series of articles is big on made up information. Bluray technology (which holds 15 gigs per disc, not 50) is supported by most of the big multimedia companies, with 2 or 3 exceptions.

I think Blu-Ray has also already been around in Japan.

[Zysyewgg]

Quote, originally posted by Cozz »
You can get all the support you want but when it takes too long to produce a game vs. jumping ship and make more profits, I think it's going to be no brainer if it's true.
As far as I know, there aren't any developers jumping ship from the Playstation camp.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Quote, originally posted by Nick »yea, as long as you are playing on an Imax screen....I hate playing with 4 people...4 people is bad enough, let alone 8...Having that many people on one screen would be a *****...
What I would do is probably buy 4 tvs and set it for four per TV (hopefully sony includes that feature)

[BadbarmrapBef]

i only very, very quickly scanned it, but i caught one bit that talked about how the PSP felt like it could snap in half and run out of batteries or whatever, both of which are untrue.
so, i dunno. didn't really feel like the rest of the article was worth reading.

[sFs4aOok]

That series of articles is big on made up information. Bluray technology (which holds 15 gigs per disc, not 50) is supported by most of the big multimedia companies, with 2 or 3 exceptions. The PS3 reads bluray as well as current formats and is backward compatible for all PS games back to the first play station. It's features are similar to those of the X-box, but it's main drawback from what I understand is game programing (not the machine's appeal). From what I'm told, Sony doesn't use the same programing language that microsoft uses. Since MS uses the same programing language as most of the powerful game making tools, it's easier to program for microsoft than for sony (which has to be translated). That said, even microsoft admits that they expect thegap to narrow between them and sony, but theydon't expect to knock sony off the #1 spot. Nintendo on te other hand will probably see it's console go the way of Atari's.

[VogsHoock]

wow i never really noticed how much sony screwed themselves until reading that.

[Erwtbimp]

on one set, thats great

[Zysyewgg]

This article shows a clear (and uneducated) bias, along with misinformation.
1. The XBOX360 (per its specifications) won't use HD-DVDs.
2. Numerous developers have announced their support for the PS3: Capcom, Konami, SquareEnix, Majesco, Namco, Electronic Arts, Koei, Rockstar, Bandai, Sonic Team (Sega), and many others.
3. SquareEnix isn't jumping ship.
4. Sony's shrinking habits aren't a scam, it's just the progression of technology-- they are able to put more stuff on one chip and reduce the number if individual components, thus they can shrink the size. It's like a mid-life refreshening. Saying it's a scam is like calling car companies scammers.
5. Sony's design flaws are quality problems, and it happens to everyone. My Playstation had problems, but that was because my brother threw stuff at it whever he dies or lost in a game and because my brother dropped it incessantly (and accidentally). Our PS2 had problems because my dad put a mod-chip in it. The problems we've had were not inherent issues, but inflicted problems.
6. The PSP's battery lasts one hour shorter than the DS's battery (when playing games with the backlight on). It will not snap in half and the analog stick will not fall out unless you try to snap it in half and try to pull out the analog stick (my brother has been successful in neither, thank the dieties in the sky). My DS (on each screen) has more dead pixels than both of my family's PSPs combined.
7. As far as pricing goes, I'd expect the PS3 to have competitive pricong, as the PS2 and PSX have hade-- the PSP's price tag isn't exactly uncompetitve, as there are no direct competitors fighting for the same demographic, and we're getting the new Value Pack (as opposed to the no-accessories Standard Pack that probably would cost $199).
8. Within my circle of friends (video game geeks, albiet not XBOX-favoring), we all agree that the PS3 looks the best-- the XBOX360 looks kinda awkward with a dash of iPod-wannabe styling (the focus group, according to something I've read), felt that the 360 reminded them of an iPod). The PS3 looks sleek with its convex shape, and it also looks less cluttered.
9. The PS3 will be launching with many anticipated titles, such as MGS4, DMC4, and the new Killzone. The XBOX360's only anticapated game is Halo 3, as far as I know.
10. He offers one possibility, which happens to be one unfavorable to Sony. For all we know, people may become fed up with Windows, and thus the Microsoft name, and an anti-Microsoft backlash may occur, causing Microsoft to crash and burn. Another possibility is that Nintendo will become the next Sega because their "innovation" and "classic games" don't have a wide enough appeal. A third possiblity is that the entire video game market will collapse because of pirating.

[Buyingtime]

oh and dont forget the ds will link to the nin. revolution! via wifi!

[extessarere]

thank you for reading it over and making sense of it because it was getting on my nerves,it was BS when I first read it

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Quote, originally posted by ford_rules »oh and dont forget the ds will link to the nin. revolution! via wifi!
The PSP will link to the PS3 as well. (ever wonder why there are 7 available wireless links for the PS3?)
And about this article; its crap written by some Nintendo fanboy whos PO'd because both Sony and Microsoft build better machines. The specifics he gave were off considerably too. Blu-ray game discs will cost only slightly more (think between $49.99 and $59.99), and the PS3 system itself is rumored BY SONY'S OWN CEO to be very, very close to $299.99, and at most $349.99.

[extessarere]

I saw this on the playstation forums and It seems crazy enough for the lounge
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part one

PS3 is going to fail, read this, I found it on Nintendo's Boards. Every word is true.
The Downfall of Sony

Sony will fail...This is inevitable. The original PS was no more than a mock-up of the SNES and the PS2 was just an upgrade. Now when Sony finally releases a brand-new console, they screw up. Here is the beginning of the end, the fall of Sony, their last words in the gaming industry and here is why:
1. The Blu-Ray
The Blu-Ray disk is supported mainly by Sony. It will hold 50GB of data. Good deal right? I'd say so. Except...they cost THRONZ of money to make! In order for the Blu-Ray disk to become the new standard for portable media storage, factories would have to spend MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on hardware just to transfer formats. Now, normally this would not be a big deal but already the world is anticipating a HUGE leap in technology 10 years from now...The HVD, Holographic Versatile Disk, will be released next-next-generation and will hold over a TERABYTE OF DATA!!! This format-generation will act a transition between the DVD and the HVD and therefore companies want to spend as little money as possible. The HD-DVD, competitor of the Blu-Ray, will prosper. It offers up to 45GB at a much cheaper migration cost in addition to cheaper development costs. All of the money that Sony flooded into the Blu-Ray will be wasted. In addition, Sony claims that the PS3 will be more of a multimedia center than a gaming device...well if Hollywood chooses to use HD-DVDs in favor of Blu-Rays, which they will, Sony's Blu-Ray using PS3 will NOT be ABLE to play movies! Meanwhile, the HD-DVD using Xbox 360 WILL be! This will not only kill Sony by wasting their millions of dollars invested in the format but will also make game production for the PS3 much more expensive leading to less appeal to the console. This is but one reason though why the system will fail.
2. Lessons From the Past....Becoming Their Own Worst Enemy
Everybody remembers the PS1 of '96. Many now know its origins....But for those of you that don't, here they are:
Back in the early 1990s, Sega, than the main competitor of Nintendo in the console wars, had released the Sega CD: the first console to use CDs to play games. In rebuttle, Nintendo made a deal with Sony in which they would develop an attatchment for the Super Nintendo that would allow it to play CDs rather than the traditional cartridges. However, the Sega CD soon flopped and so Nintendo cancelled the deal with Sony leaving Sony with a few unfinished schematics. Sony however saw the gaming industry as a very profitable one and so they filled in the blanks on the schematics, upgraded the hardware and VOILA! The Playstation was formed. It should be noted that the Playstation was in fact mostly a Super NIntendo. When you look at the original PS1 controllers, they are basically SNES controllers with handles and triggers. Also, the name for the planned Super Nintendo attatchment was also known as 'The Playstation'. The actual hardware was also similar but the PS1 had a faster processor and a more powerful 3D engine. The only reason, in fact, why the PS1 beat the N64 was because for years, Nintendo had charged extreme development fees and was very unfriendly towards the third-party developers. Then came Sony who was developer-friendly and gave very low development costs for a console that was much easier to develop for than the N64. Developers left Nintendo one by one beginning with SquareSoft (Now Square-Enix). Since than, Nintendo has not been able to gain back many of those developers. However, than came the PS2 and the Gamecube in addition to the Xbox. The Gamecube has acted as more of a transitionary console: Nintendo learned from its mistakes and became much more developer-friendly. The Gamecube was extremely easy to develop for and Nintendo offered low licensing-fees. They even lent out developers, among them the legendary Shigaru Miyamato, creator of Mario. Yes, Nintendo used the Gamecube to gain back the trust from developers that they had lost in the days of the SNES and the N64. They did not care what kind of an image that they were given because they knew that if they could win back developers than they could have more mature games on their next console. Meanwhile, Playstation 2 was much harder to develop for than the PS1 and several developers hoped that Sony would make the PS3 easier to develop for. Many left Sony and went to the new system, Xbox to develop for instead. Regardless, this generation comes to a close and we see several interesting things happening: Firstly, Nintendo has been able to completely rewrite their image among developers which should allow them to gain more third-party support for the Revolution. Microsoft has an interesting console that will definitely tough out the coming generation with the Xbox 360. Sony, however, has created a monster. The Playstation 3 not only is more difficult to develop for than any other console in history, but it also charges high licensing fees and is very developer-unfriendly. In essence, Sony has put itself in the exact same position that lost Nintendo the gaming market 10 years ago. Gaming companies that could create up to 6 games a year in the past can only crank out one or two for the PS3. Sony has not learned the hard lesson that Nintendo learned. They are doomed to suffer the same fate of a loss of third party developers. Already it has begun: Square-Enix, maker of Final Fantasy, one of Sony's top games, is beginning to explore new horizons as third-party companies tend to do. They have already developed Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles for the Gamecube and DS and are currently creating Final Fantasy XI for the Xbox 360. Back in 1996, Square was one of the first companies to leave Nintendo. Many feel that they will lead the revolt against Sony as well this time around. But wait! Nintedno was able to survive through a lack of third-party games in '96....Sony should be able to as well, right? Wrong. When Nintendo lost its third-party support, it was able to fall back on its first-party games such as Mario, Zelda, and Metroid...All of which are classics and are guarenteed money-makers. Sony, however, is left with only Grand Turismo as an exclusive blockbuster. All of its other hits are going multi-platform. You see, when you rely solely on third-party games to sustain a system, you are putting yourself in a VERY dangerous position: Even though the company may begin exclusive to your console, they will inevitably begin to expand and look to new horizons. They will realize that by releasing their products for other platforms as well, they can double or even TRIPLE their profits! This all happens at the expense of the first-party who has lost another exclusive game. It gives the consumers one less reason to buy their console. First-Party games, however, never leave the console: The company has complete onwnership of the title and it would be stupid to release it on other consoles...And not even Sony is that stupid ^_^. When Sony loses its third-party exclusives, they will have virtually nothing to fall back on and will be left with only cross-platform games. Gamers will realize that the PS3 has virtually no games and will not buy it. Even the hardcore Sony fans will be forced to see the light and may sell their PS3s to buy an Xbox 360 or a Revolution. Sony has doomed itself and has already gone to far to back out now. Sony has no choice but to continue with the PS3's current plans.
So far, the PS3 is a console running on Blu-Ray disks that will cost up to $70 per game. It will also likely have a complete lack of games due to the hatred that developers now have for them. Unfortunately, this is only the beginning...
3. The George Forman Grill
The PS1 was based on the SNES. The PS2s design was based on an IBM computer. Now, Sony finally designs their own console and look what happens! They create a bulky, large, cumbersome wafflemaker-looking console with controllers shaped like boomerangs! The Xbox 360 on the other hand is small, sleek, and sexy as is the Revolution. Sony has a nasty habbit of making large consoles just so that they can re-release them later in a smaller case. What a SCAM! I am sorry, but the PS3 looks SO out of place ANYWHERE you put it! In addition, Sony has become famous for stupid design flaws on their consoles...For example: The PS1's lid would break and you had to put a dictionary on it to close it; The PS2's tray would malfunction when stood vertically for too long; The PSP...Oh, don't get me started. It cracks in half in your hands, has up to 13 dead pixels, the analog stick falls off, it eats battery life faster than the processor processes...It's a wreck! I have absolutely NO reason to believe that the PS3 will lack the design flaws that their other consoles have been plagued with. Meanwhile, the Xbox 360, even though it has useless ugly face-plates, probably won't have too many flaws...Ok I probably shouldn't say that, but I find it hard to believe it will have as many as Sony's. As for the Revolution, if anybody knows how to make a console, it's Nintendo. Nobody can argue with that. Ok, so the Gamecube was somewhat ugly, but it worked much better than the other two as far as design-flaws go. The design of the system and the controller will not play a large roll in the demise of Sony, but it somewhat reminds me of the unorthodox route that Sega took before their collapse with the Dreamcast. I'm sure that the George Forman Grill design will not help the company out.

[stoneeZef]

Sorry but I haven't read them all...can some one give me a just of the post? Thanks!
On a related note (I think), has anyone seen the Google 2014 piece? It's a video