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Old 04-09-2011, 04:15 AM   #1
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Default 18 minutes of SuperLeggera V10 goodness? Thank you!!!
My buddy spent the day at Autobahn Country Club and kindly put this video up for us who aren't so rich. [thumbup]

Turn up the speakers.

He gets caught up in some serious traffic a few times. I'm reminded of that song "Move B*%*#! Get out tha way!" Or however it goes.

http://www.vimeo.com/27175990

Here's some action vid of his Viper SRT-10 with telemetry on the track too. Look at the Lateral grip meters. Nearly 1.5g steady cornering. He's on slicks with an aero package (chin splitter + canards and wing)

http://www.vimeo.com/25411932
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:04 AM   #2
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Super sick!!

I think I saw it hit 2g's on one corner in the SRT!
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:26 AM   #3
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May I ask what your buddy does for a living? He's obviously doing something right.

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Old 05-08-2011, 07:32 AM   #4
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I'm not really an engine expert by any means, so this may be a dumb question, but what are the advantages of a V10 engine vs a V8? The only one I can think of is more frequent firing, but compared to a V8 it is not balanced, in which I think that a V8 would be more efficient and potentially more powerful because of that.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:36 AM   #5
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I'm not really an engine expert by any means, so this may be a dumb question, but what are the advantages of a V10 engine vs a V8? The only one I can think of is more frequent firing, but compared to a V8 it is not balanced, in which I think that a V8 would be more efficient and potentially more powerful because of that.
Fruity can probably answer it better, but the V10 has a bigger displacement and can produce more HP and Torque as a result of a bigger block.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:37 AM   #6
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More cylinders = shorter cylinder stroke required for equivalent displacement = more hp per volume.

That's my best rationale at least.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:42 AM   #7
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Fruity can probably answer it better, but the V10 has a bigger displacement and can produce more HP and Torque as a result of a bigger block.
Yes, but assuming similar displacement.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:07 AM   #8
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May I ask what your buddy does for a living? He's obviously doing something right.

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He developed one of the most successful PCM tuning applications out there. He's low key so I won't post his website. But he's easy enough to find, he has his company logo on the Viper.

Yes, but assuming similar displacement.
This is an oversimplification but it can summed up like this.

More cylinders in a given displacement make smaller, more efficient combustion chambers. The flame front has less distance to travel so you get a more complete burn. Fuel can only burn so fast. As the piston is pushed down by the flame front the cylinder volume increases and cylinder pressures drop. When cylinder pressures drop the flame front cools more rapidly...and the cycle repeats until the exhaust valve is opened and the burnt mixture is vented. So a smaller cylinder volume reduces pumping losses and keeps higher average cylinder pressures for more of the power stroke.


On the down side the rotating assembly is more complicated and thus more prone to failure. Its also heavier so and since it has more moving parts it loses more to friction as well.

Another engine fact for you. V6, V10 and V12s are flat plane cranks, meaning the engine actually acts like two inline engines joined by a single crankshaft. V8's however can function like as a flatplane crank, or a cross plane crank. The difference is the firing order. A V8 with a flat plane crank is unbalanced. All out V8 powered race cars designed from the ground up use a flat plane crank because it has a much lighter rotating mass at the expense of higher order harmonics. A Crossplane V8 is a heavier crank, but is an inherently balanced engine so it doesn't need a balance shaft.

But in the end in a V8 crossplane vs flatplane can be summed up by these two youtube clips.

Flat Plane V8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtd2yxvVR0

Crossplane V8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMPMZjp4mE

Can you tell the difference? You'll want to turn up the volume REAL LOUD for these two engines. They are eargasm inducing.

And just for kicks how about a V16 engine? Very nice, but not cost effective and prone to reliability issues so you don't see them anymore. V8s, V10s and V12s seem to provide the best combination of reliability and power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE
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