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Old 07-26-2011, 05:04 AM   #1
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Default Women jaywalks with kids, driver kills one
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...151356884.html

How lame.
Drinking, on painkillers, 2 previous hit and runs, and this being his 3rd hit and run.

Sh/t, great time to implement the 3 strikes deal. Throw his butt in jail for a long a$$ time.


This is why I don't and trust like the courts system. The driver is probably rich and pays off the judges.



Sure she j-walked, but so what. The road I go down everyday to school has a police department on it. 5 lane hwy that is extremely busy. The cops jaywalk all the time to the fast food on the other side of the street.
Jaywalking is in the books yes, but it's one of those laws that is ignored like so many others.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:22 AM   #2
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Thats effed up. And strange for me over here.
Since car drivers have to proof without a doubt that they werent at fault when they hit a pedestrian or bicycler. In short whenever a car hits one of those its always the car driver fault first.

Dunno what the law is about that over there?
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:28 AM   #3
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Like akira said.. I will complete him a bit more.

The laws here is that a driver in a car is pretty much safe and has a heavy and fast vehicle. Cyclers and pedestrians are vulnerable in every way.. So the driver of a car or other motorized vehicle must always be alert onto the unthinkable.

Kids running up the street, a cycler losing balance, turning without showing their hand to which direction... Always be alert. Now if you drive at the speed limit and something does come infront your vision and you have no time to react and stop beforeimpact, yyou win. However if you kill someone by overrunning a child or someone else.. You'd be the one having to carry that burdon all your life.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:30 AM   #4
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Well Jaywalking doesn't exactly deserve a death sentence, so it is pretty clear that the driver is at-fault in this situation.
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Old 07-26-2011, 07:40 AM   #5
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What is J Walking, Ive heard of it but we dont have it in England
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:19 AM   #6
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Shes getting convicted cuz someone else killed her kid??? I dont even know how to react to that!!
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:29 AM   #7
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What is J Walking, Ive heard of it but we dont have it in England
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEjXbLQOOE


On a serious note... Both the Mother and the Driver deserve punishment. But I don't know what kind of punishment the mother deserves. Making the children motherless is not exactly a healthy environment for the children then again a mother who makes careless decisions for her children isn't healthy for the kids.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:31 AM   #8
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When you J walk, you put your judgment of where a car is going to be up against your life.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:01 PM   #9
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People here "j walk" all the time, everywhere. Actually I´ve seen it in all countries I have travelled in. I mean who needs a traffic light to cross a street unless you´re disabled or a child? J walking isnt the problem, but two idiots combining their efforts to kill a child. The mom should watched the street better or use a crosswalk and the driver, well, its clear what his problem was.

But the mom is punished enough by losing her offspring. Just my opinion. I doubt she cares about what the has in mind for her now. Her life is f***ed.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:12 PM   #10
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People here "j walk" all the time, everywhere. Actually I´ve seen it in all countries I have travelled in. I mean who needs a traffic light to cross a street unless you´re disabled or a child
Not much traffic on Germany's roads, huh?
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:21 PM   #11
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It's her fault, but she's had all the punishment she deserves already. Plus, if the driver didn't stop, he becomes decidedly more guilty at that point. Really, it should have been a situation where no one is charged with anything. Maybe just sterilize the driver.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:27 PM   #12
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You shouldn't be expected to use a pedestrian crossing unless it is reasonably close to where you need to cross. And how come they come down harder on this woman than the person who was obviously most at fault?
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:59 PM   #13
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It's going to depend on the actual circumstances - she's certainly seems guilty of reckless behaviour by attempting to cross the road like that - however, it's very difficult to control children and one may have run onto the road against her instructions.
As for the driver - perhaps he was careless and had time to stop - or he had no time to react, let alone stop, as they could have stepped right in front of his car. In which case his previous history meant nothing.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:05 PM   #14
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You shouldn't be expected to use a pedestrian crossing unless it is reasonably close to where you need to cross. And how come they come down harder on this woman than the person who was obviously most at fault?
In the UK you're pretty much safe like this, there is absolutely no way I'd want to chance my life crossing a road in a US city without a crossing though.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:14 PM   #15
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In the UK you're pretty much safe like this, there is absolutely no way I'd want to chance my life crossing a road in a US city without a crossing though.
There's no way I'd do it if I had young kids. You should be responsible and show kids the right way until they're old enough to go out and get run over on their own. I agree, both should get ****ed hard.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:15 PM   #16
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Not much traffic on Germany's roads, huh?
Notice he said cross the street, not cross a motorway.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:19 PM   #17
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People here "j walk" all the time, everywhere. Actually I´ve seen it in all countries I have travelled in. I mean who needs a traffic light to cross a street unless you´re disabled or a child?
In my experience, pretty much all of the roads in the US are like this (apart from rural areas obviously).

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Old 07-26-2011, 06:34 PM   #18
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Notice he said cross the street, not cross a motorway.
Roads can be busy.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:41 PM   #19
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You shouldn't be expected to use a pedestrian crossing unless it is reasonably close to where you need to cross. And how come they come down harder on this woman than the person who was obviously most at fault?
What should you be expected to do? I can imagine it's a huge pain in the backside to get to the nearest safe crossing. But walking out into moving traffic isn't really the thing to do with your young kids. Also, why do you think the drivers mostly at fault. (I only read the article to if I've missed something I apologise), but if I'm driving along and someone steps out into my path, I'd hope I'm not at fault.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:57 PM   #20
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What should you be expected to do? I can imagine it's a huge pain in the backside to get to the nearest safe crossing. But walking out into moving traffic isn't really the thing to do with your young kids.
Well obviously it depends on exactly how far away the crossing is, and whether one could easily cross the road safely without use of the designated crossing.

Also, why do you think the drivers mostly at fault. (I only read the article to if I've missed something I apologise), but if I'm driving along and someone steps out into my path, I'd hope I'm not at fault. Driving under the influence of drugs (pain killers) and alcohol, and leaving the scene of an accident (an offence he'd committed twice before btw)
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