[Anckzxik]

How is it definitively better than the Arc? It's very iPhone like and the interface is a bit weird IMO. If you can convince me otherwise I'll send mine back and get an S2.

Any htc phone and Samsung Galaxy based (I/II/future) will be better than an xperia, LG, and other not as popular android phones simply because of community. End/

The community makes the phone goa LONG way.


Hardware is important but IMO community is even more important.

www.xda-developers.com the forum post #s for HTC phones says it all.

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A ice vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMDA...e_gdata_player

Performance seems closer than I thought it would be! [help]

Edit: Your score: 84932 on browsermark on the Xoom. Why so fast?

The graphics benchmarks are not nearly demanding enough, the framerate on the Galaxy S2 is capped at 60fps, if you look at the Nenamark test the framerate just won't go any higher so the results will be close.

It would be like benchmarking 3dmark2001 on a 7800GTX and a 8800GTX with 60fps a framerate cap, it won't tell you much.

The only odd result there is smartbench, even my Galaxy S scores higher in that test, but Galaxy S2 wins easily in everything else, the developers need to update that benchmark as somethings not right there.

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The graphics benchmarks are not nearly demanding enough, the framerate on the Galaxy S2 is capped at 60fps, if you look at the Nenamark test the framerate just won't go any higher so the results will be close.

It would be like benchmarking 3dmark2001 on a 7800GTX and a 8800GTX with 60fps a framerate cap, it won't tell you much.

The only odd result there is smartbench, even my Galaxy S scores higher in that test, but Galaxy S2 wins easily in everything else, the developers need to update that benchmark as somethings not right there.

Thanks for the clarification. I really wish there were a way to disable fps limits on phones for benchmarking purposes.

Will we ever see what they are truly capable of? [yes]

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Thanks for the clarification. I really wish there were a way to disable fps limits on phones for benchmarking purposes.

Will we ever see what they are truly capable of? [yes]

Probably need root or custom rom to unlock it, there isnt much of a benchmark community with mobiles so there isnt a big enough demand for it.

Maybe futuremark should make a new mobile bencchmark. [yes]

[Mboxmaja]

So my current phone contract is just about to run out and I've been offered each of these as a replacement. I'm not a big "phone guy" at all, and as such don't keep up with the latest and greatest. I'm just wondering what the main selling points of each is (from folks like yourself who actually own them)?

I pretty much use my phone for calls and texting exclusively, with very little web browsing. Never really been into apps but then again my current phone is a Nokia with nothing but **** on their store.

I was also wondering if it is worth waiting until I return from the states (either August or November depending), if there is anything on the horizon worth waiting for?

Cheers. [xmascandle]

[TeemFilla]

I've only had the sony xperia arc for a couple of days but I think it's better than the desire HD personally (I've used friends a few times). The paint scratches very easily on those and they feel a bit too big IMO.

No idea about the LG but I'd try the arc out as well before you decide.

[tretcheenia]

The EVO 3D is supposed to be coming out soon. Not much is known about it right now though

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Behold the Android Holy Grail: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

[TeemFilla]

Behold the Android Holy Grail: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

How is it definitively better than the Arc? It's very iPhone like and the interface is a bit weird IMO. If you can convince me otherwise I'll send mine back and get an S2.

[Wahwlsnt]

Behold the Android Holy Grail: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

If I had any other phone right now, it would be that one.

[Penisvergroesserung]

How is it definitively better than the Arc? It's very iPhone like and the interface is a bit weird IMO. If you can convince me otherwise I'll send mine back and get an S2.

i'd say harware wise it pisses over all Android phones of the moment. If you were to go for one, you don't have to stick with the Samsung UI if you got SGSII.


You can install:
gingerbread launcher (Stock gingerbread launcher): https://market.android.com/details?i...droid.launcher

ADW Launcher (an open source launcher which is highly customisable): https://market.android.com/details?id=org.adw.launcher

ADW EX (Like ADW with more features. Paid to support the developers): https://market.android.com/details?i...freak.launcher

Zeam (A very "light" launcher): https://market.android.com/details?id=org.zeam

Launcher 7 (for that WP7 look): https://market.android.com/details?i...soft.launcher7

There are plenty of ways you can make your Arc and SGS like a more stock experience and if one UI doesn't suit you, you can try the next! If I were to replace my Nexus S today, it would be with the SGSII.

If I had any other phone right now, it would be that one.

You read my mind!

[Reocourgigiot]

How is it definitively better than the Arc? It's very iPhone like and the interface is a bit weird IMO. If you can convince me otherwise I'll send mine back and get an S2.

Dual core CPU, much better GPU, better battery life, better screen, traditionally much better modding community. I guess a better way to sum it up would be "it's better at everything that an android phone does".

Oh and DO WANT!

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Behold the Android Holy Grail: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

Mine was dispatched today, but will have to wait until next week due to damn bank holidays!!

Stupid royal wedding! [cursing]

[Reocourgigiot]

Launcher 7 (for that WP7 look): https://market.android.com/details?i...soft.launcher7

But WHY???

[Mboxmaja]

Behold the Android Holy Grail: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

Think it's worth waiting to get the likes of this over say, the LG chaz? As far as I can see, the LG is also Dual Core with an Nvidia GPU though I'm guessing its slower/shitter somehow?

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Think it's worth waiting to get the likes of this over say, the LG chaz? As far as I can see, the LG is also Dual Core with an Nvidia GPU though I'm guessing its slower/shitter somehow?

I think the SGS II is out now and would get one over the Optimus 2X personally Gud..

Optimus 2X Quadrant score:

SGS II Quadrant score:


SGS 2 Specs.
CPU: Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Orion chipset
OS: Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)
Storage/RAM: 16GB/32GB storage, 1 GB RAM

Optimus 2X Specs
CPU: Dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 chipset
OS: Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo), upgradable to v2.3
Storage/RAM: 8 GB storage, 512 MB RAM

Mine was dispatched today, but will have to wait until next week due to damn bank holidays!!

Stupid royal wedding! [cursing]

That would... FFFFFUUUUU me off! Can't you collect it Saturday?

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That would... FFFFFUUUUU me off! Can't you collect it Saturday?

I doubt it and I wouldn't have time to drive upto manchester to collect it.

But if it wasnt for the wedding I would probably have it first thing tomorrow, best if I try not to think about it.

[tretcheenia]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/h...irst-hands-on/

http://www.htc.com/www/product/evo3d/overview.html

[Ruidselisse]

Galaxy s2

[Auzuigcx]

I'd try get the SGS2. I'm going to in August when it's upgrade time.