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Old 06-08-2010, 10:08 PM   #1
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Did you get any compensation then?
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:04 AM   #2
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Getting married on Saturday. Hired a videographer on a discount deal, paid the deposit and were happy.

2 weeks beforehand he sends us an email saying his camera is broken and wants US to pay for the rental. Try to contact him and he messes us around and completely fails at contacting us.

Finally sent us an email saying his partner has pulled out and he wants to completely cancel and refund our deposit.

UK law states we had a contract and he has broken it.

Sent him an email saying we agree to nothing and will not discuss it before the wedding and that we will contact him regarding our legal position after the wedding.

Let him stew on that.
Scotsman in "tight arse" shocker.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:16 AM   #3
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Scotsman in "tight arse" shocker.
I'm English actually.

We decided to take the refund in the end.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:21 AM   #4
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I'm English actually.

We decided to take the refund in the end.
I knew you were only playing the internet hard man routine [yes]

I bet you were like:

you:

oooh er um eh oooh erm,what shall i do,errr em oooh erm,what shall I do.

photogbloke:

well you can have a refund.

you:

OK then.

whilst posting on here.

blah blah Im gonna sue him blah blargh !
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:06 AM   #5
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Getting married on Saturday. Hired a videographer on a discount deal, paid the deposit and were happy.

2 weeks beforehand he sends us an email saying his camera is broken and wants US to pay for the rental. Try to contact him and he messes us around and completely fails at contacting us.

Finally sent us an email saying his partner has pulled out and he wants to completely cancel and refund our deposit.

UK law states we had a contract and he has broken it.

Sent him an email saying we agree to nothing and will not discuss it before the wedding and that we will contact him regarding our legal position after the wedding.

Let him stew on that.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:16 AM   #6
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Firstly, congratulations on getting hitched. It was the happiest day of my life.

Hired a videographer on a discount deal,
This is where you went wrong. These recordings will be with you forever... they may even pass to the next generation if you are lucky. Why would you want to compromise here?

I sincerely hope you didn't do the same with the photographer. Unlike the video, other people will actually look at your wedding photos many years from now.

We hired a real pro, and it cost us an arm and a leg (he cost about 50% of the entire price of the venue, including food a liquor)... and it was worth every penny.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:28 AM   #7
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Well the we spent quite a bit on the photographer yes, no problems there. A lovely couple that is costing is quite a bit and considering their previous work (they are not newcomers) then they should probably charging more.

We spent as much as we could on the photography but then we won some more money in a eurovision sweepstakes and decided to try and get a videographer.

This guy was fairly new, but seemed decent enough and we thought it was better than nothing or asking family to do it.

We are putting the money into having the photographers for a bit longer.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:48 AM   #8
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Getting married on Saturday. Hired a videographer on a discount deal, paid the deposit and were happy.

2 weeks beforehand he sends us an email saying his camera is broken and wants US to pay for the rental. Try to contact him and he messes us around and completely fails at contacting us.

Finally sent us an email saying his partner has pulled out and he wants to completely cancel and refund our deposit.

UK law states we had a contract and he has broken it.

Sent him an email saying we agree to nothing and will not discuss it before the wedding and that we will contact him regarding our legal position after the wedding.

Let him stew on that.
Unless you're actually going to take legal advice (which you're entitled to do) you're just being a tw*t.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:54 AM   #9
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Unless you're actually going to take legal advice (which you're entitled to do) you're just being a tw*t.
I disagree. It's a perfectly valid response. If you contract with someone for a service, you're responsible for providing it.

If I hire "2 men and a van" I don't expect to be told a few days beforehand, that I need to rent the van for them.

This is why professionals always have backup tools, whatever they may be.

You don't really expect the doctor to ask you for a stethoscope at your physical, do you?
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:06 AM   #10
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Getting married on Saturday. Hired a videographer on a discount deal, paid the deposit and were happy.

2 weeks beforehand he sends us an email saying his camera is broken and wants US to pay for the rental. Try to contact him and he messes us around and completely fails at contacting us.

Finally sent us an email saying his partner has pulled out and he wants to completely cancel and refund our deposit.

UK law states we had a contract and he has broken it.

Sent him an email saying we agree to nothing and will not discuss it before the wedding and that we will contact him regarding our legal position after the wedding.

Let him stew on that.
So he has offered to refund your deposit and is backing out of the deal..... Whats the problem? You get your money back what more are you looking for? Move on and find another person. You haven't lost any money, you actually come off as a tw*t. I would say since he isnt screwing you out of anything but the time it took to find and hire him just move on.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:11 AM   #11
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So he has offered to refund your deposit and is backing out of the deal..... Whats the problem? You get your money back what more are you looking for? Move on and find another person. You haven't lost any money, you actually come off as a tw*t. I would say since he isnt screwing you out of anything but the time it took to find and hire him just move on.
Oops, I missed the "refunding the deposit" and "backing out" parts of the parent post.

To be fair, he should find you an adequate replacement (not that he should pay for it).
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:31 AM   #12
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Oh yeah lets just find someone in the middle of prime wedding season 5 days before the wedding.... So easy.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:34 AM   #13
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Oops, I missed the "refunding the deposit" and "backing out" parts of the parent post.

To be fair, he should find you an adequate replacement (not that he should pay for it).
Actually legally he should.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:36 AM   #14
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Actually legally he should.
Only if you finish paying him his fee.

That was the contract we had with our photographer. He worked with someone, and if he would be unable to provide the service, someone he vouched for would replace him. Not an ideal situation, but if he became ill the night before, what could he possibly do...

Can't really ask for more than that and still be reasonable. Obviously, if afterwards you're not satisfied with the replacement, you have to raise the issue with the person you contracted with.

... but honestly, I can't believe you don't have cancellation terms and absence terms in your contract.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:04 AM   #15
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I'll do the photography [yes]
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:36 AM   #16
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UK law states we had a contract and he has broken it.
Qualified solicitor are you? I would check said contract, it probably has a cancellation term that states the service can be withdrawn at any time with liability limited to the amount of any monies received to that time.

If you have no written contract, then the default liability for the contract is the total value of the contract, which by definition is any monies received until provision of services.

He has offered to refund the money you have given him, so he's done everything required under UK law. I wouldn't waste your time chasing this legally as you won't get compensation, just take the refund and spend it on something else.

Actually legally he should.
He should only pay for it if you have fully compensated him for provision of services, but again he can refer to the cancellation terms at any point.

That aside, it was a bit off for him to expect you to pay the rental for the equipment as he should have a spare.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:53 PM   #17
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Qualified solicitor are you? I would check said contract, it probably has a cancellation term that states the service can be withdrawn at any time with liability limited to the amount of any monies received to that time.

If you have no written contract, then the default liability for the contract is the total value of the contract, which by definition is any monies received until provision of services.

He has offered to refund the money you have given him, so he's done everything required under UK law. I wouldn't waste your time chasing this legally as you won't get compensation, just take the refund and spend it on something else.



He should only pay for it if you have fully compensated him for provision of services, but again he can refer to the cancellation terms at any point.

That aside, it was a bit off for him to expect you to pay the rental for the equipment as he should have a spare.
What ^^^ said.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:50 PM   #18
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Well lets put it this way:

We cant find a videographer now.

He has failed to provide us with any alternative.

So we are getting it done by a member of the family so we have something.

Therefore we may seek damages against him since he pulled out so late.
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Old 07-20-2010, 10:03 PM   #19
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Well lets put it this way:

We cant find a videographer now.

He has failed to provide us with any alternative.

So we are getting it done by a member of the family so we have something.

Therefore we may seek damages against him since he pulled out so late.
well its your own fault for not having a backup plan isn't it.

what you going to do sue him because his camera broke...

meaks old pal, its your own **** up for not looking into eventualities as weddings rarely go to plan.

and your going to make your wedding day turn out **** because your letting this play on your mind (S)

I'd be more worried about the bride turning up on the day than the poxy photographer...

oh and lol for suing for damages,lol really...
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Old 07-20-2010, 10:14 PM   #20
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Well lets put it this way:

We cant find a videographer now.

He has failed to provide us with any alternative.

So we are getting it done by a member of the family so we have something.

Therefore we may seek damages against him since he pulled out so late.
Let's not put it that way, you are the one that brought contract law into it, so did you have a WRITTEN contract? If so, what are the cancellation terms? As noted, a refund of deposit almost definitely extinguishes his liability.
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