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Old 05-08-2010, 08:49 PM   #1
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Thats a strange accident,,,at first it looked like pilot error to me, since he should have been able to go into full afterburner and just nose it over,but looking at the picture you can see that the left engine's rear nozzle is in the wide open position,,,thats either at full afterburner or at idle,,and the right engine's nozzle is closed or in the full non-afterburner thrust position (thats the position it is in during that slow manuver) and in one of the witness interviews one guy said he heard pop, pop, pop and saw sparks comming from one engine which indicates an engine failure of some kind...

Ive seen the blue angels do this manuver many times but they use the F18 super hornet with the F414 engine compared to the F404 engine and the F414 has 4-5000 lbs more thrust..and when they do that manuver with 2 planes and at the end of the slow manuver one noses it over and shoots straight away and the other slams it into afterburner and it goes almost straight up in the air..pretty impressive display of thrust [shocked]
mistake on my part,,,,,,I just signed up to see the blue angels again at the General Electric chalet right on the flight line at pease afb and the flyer said they are using the F404 engines and are the regular F18s not the super hornet F18s....they are going to have a superhornet do some flying so should be a great show.....
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:06 PM   #2
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The other video perspective here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BScl4pdV1vE
At 1:19 in the video you posted a witness reports hearing Pop pop and seeing sparks before the jet started listing to one side.

So with that, it sounds like the right engine failed, lost thrust at the low speed caused it to stall before the pilot could correct and gain altitude/speed with one engine.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:02 AM   #3
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Default Close Call... F-18 Jet Crash
Incredible. Clear pictures of the incident here.



http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...terjet-crashes

http://www.cbc.ca/calgary/photogalle...llery_3715.xml

A Canadian air force pilot rehearsing for an air show ejects from his CF-18 Hornet jet before it crashes at the Lethbridge Regional Airport in Alberta. He was taken to the hospital with undetermined injuries.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:46 AM   #4
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Wow, Just wow! [shocked]
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:46 AM   #5
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that 1st picture reminds me of the endboss in duke nukem 1
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:13 AM   #6
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So, who pays for the damage?
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:49 AM   #7
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Can someone photoshop "You're doing it wrong" on top of that?
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:29 AM   #8
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Can someone photoshop "You're doing it wrong" on top of that?
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:31 AM   #9
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He's fine.... that is, until the bill comes for the plane he buried.

I bet that photographer is proud of himself. I sure would be to catch those pics.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:48 PM   #10
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Yeah I'm not sure who forks over the bill for this one. I'm sure an investigation will determine that to see if this was pilot error... (more than likely) But those CF-18's are ancient too.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...-released.html

Sure enough, Pilot released from hospital, investigation is now set in motion. Air Show will still go on.
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:53 AM   #11
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Video is now on the BBC site [shocked]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10748900
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:00 AM   #12
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wow if he ejected at a wrong angle
good he's well
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:16 AM   #13
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probably a generator failure, one of the engines only appeared to be running too (look at the impact image).

he probably lost hyd power to the control surfaces.
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:31 AM   #14
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probably a generator failure, one of the engines only appeared to be running too (look at the impact image).

he probably lost hyd power to the control surfaces.
I'm no expert, but from the looks of the video, It looked like he was trying to gain some height, (pulling the stick back), since the nose was pointed upwards, but at the end it sort of veers off, as if there was no power for forward thrust and instead of banking to the right, it just seems to start to loose height and slowly veers to the right and heads down.

Probably a failure in both engines, as if he had one engine working he could still gain height, but compensate on the stick, to make up for the increased thrust towards one side.

I'm guessing a twin engined jet, creates thrust in both engines simultaneously and that pushes the jet in a straight line, but engine failure on one side only would cause the other engine to push the plane forwards, but more to one side (pretty much like when your driving straight forward and you let go of the steering wheel and the car veers off slightly because of a camber in the road).

That's my guess anyway!
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:35 AM   #15
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I'm no expert, but from the looks of the video, It looked like he was trying to gain some height, (pulling the stick back), since the nose was pointed upwards, but at the end it sort of veers off, as if there was no power for forward thrust and instead of banking to the right, it just seems to start to loose height and slowly veers to the right and heads down.

Probably a failure in both engines, as if he had one engine working he could still gain height, but compensate on the stick, to make up for the increased thrust towards one side.

I'm guessing a twin engined jet, creates thrust in both engines simultaneously and that pushes the jet in a straight line, but engine failure on one side only would cause the other engine to push the plane forwards, but more to one side (pretty much like when your driving straight forward and you let go of the steering wheel and the car veers off slightly because of a camber in the road).

That's my guess anyway!
I didnt watch the video

he could have lost an engine,and as he was at a high angle of attack it simply stalled and rolled to the right because one wing stalled before the other

just saw the video... if you lose an engine doing that manoeuvre at that altitude you pretty much have no chance of recovery.
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:49 AM   #16
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BScl4pdV1vE

Very lucky! If you survive hitting the ground the last thing you need is to float into the fireball. [surrender]
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:52 AM   #17
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OMG Ive flown at cold lake

oh and repost !!
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:56 AM   #18
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figgen hell. you only notice these things after you post and I even checked for a thread. BAH!
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:58 AM   #19
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Yeah I called it "Close Call" the same thing the woman reporter describes in the youtube link you provided.
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:59 AM   #20
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The other video perspective here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BScl4pdV1vE
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