[JulieSmithdccd]

Okay, here's a small rant...
So I had just got home from work, walking up to my door, when I see a lady leaving my front gate... Weird I thought, so I kind of tired to hint at her why she was there, but she just walked away. Okay...
So I enter my house and there's like 20 people in there.

So here's the back story. I live with 3 other roommates who are quite possibly the dirtiest, most messy people on the planet. Anyways, about a week ago we submitted to our leasing office that we were going to be leaving after our lease is up on July 1st.
I guess the leasing office thought it would be okay to start showing the house to people, without ANY notice whatsoever. People are in every room, including mine...with all our stuff still there.
Remember when I said earlier that I live with 3 extremely messy people? Well the place is trashed. Cat poop and vomit on areas of the carpet because one of my roommates is to lazy to clean up after the cat, my other roommate smokes like a chimney and his room is littered in ash and empty cigarette boxes. And my third roommate is just plain messy. Clothes, trash and silverware scattered about his room.

We had all planned to do some extreme cleaning of the place and some minor work before we left the place, but we had not started yet, seeing as it's only the middle of May.

How embarrassing it is to come home to a house full of strangers looking at you like "What have you done to this place"... A notice from the leasing office would have been nice, in fact I would find it hard to believe that the leasing office can just come in unannounced and start showing the place to people WHILE WE'RE STILL HERE. [cursing][cursing][cursing]

Keep in mind that this place is actually owned by a fellow that lives in Texas and is only using the leasing office to handle finding the tenants and the leasing of the place, collecting rent etc.

This has me so angry that I actually feel violated. I think I might give the leasing office a call and ask them WTF.

Legally do they have the right to start shopping the place without any notice to the current residents while they are still under lease? I mean...a notice of any kind would have allowed us to get the place "showable"....

[medshop]

Where I'm from, we have to give our tenants 24hrs written notice before entering the property.

[Zvssxstw]

Where I'm from, we have to give our tenants 24hrs written notice before entering the property.

where I'm from if my flat tennant were riesty fookers I would have kicked them out years ago

cant stand riesty bastards...

[JulieSmithdccd]

where I'm from if my flat tennant were riesty fookers I would have kicked them out years ago

cant stand riesty bastards...

unfortunately we we're all on the lease. If I "kicked" them out, we'd all have to pay the breach of lease fine. I already looked into it ;x

[sleepergun]

I don't see how that can be legal. If it is it shouldn't be.

[duexjepevef]

If I was the owner I'd be pissed at the agent that they showed a heap of potential clients how much of a dump your house is. They will probably have to redo the whole process after you guys have left.

In Australia you would have to be given several weeks notice before they did something like this. Perhaps because your housemates neglect everything, perhaps they neglected to check the mail or realise there was notice amongst the mail? Part of me just thinks you guys are so sloppy at everything that you don't even realise things.

[JulieSmithdccd]

If I was the owner I'd be pissed at the agent that they showed a heap of potential clients how much of a dump your house is. They will probably have to redo the whole process after you guys have left.

In Australia you would have to be given several weeks notice before they did something like this. Perhaps because your housemates neglect everything, perhaps they neglected to check the mail or realise there was notice amongst the mail? Part of me just thinks you guys are so sloppy at everything that you don't even realise things.

While I see your point, we all have mail keys and check it daily, at least I do. The house is sloppy, no doubt, but no major damage has been done to the walls or carpets. A strong cleaning would make this place 95% better.

[craditc]

I don't see how that can be legal. If it is it shouldn't be.

Generally in rental contracts there is a clause that says the landlord is permitted to enter the premises for the purpose of viewings once notice has been served. It's fair enough really, they have a business to run.

[JulieSmithdccd]

Yes, it's extremely fair that for the next month and a half, random strangers will be entering my home without any notice

[KLIMOV25gyi]

the owner isn't even allowed to enter the resident without prior permission.

Not true. The owner is the owner. It's his land/buildings.

He doesn't need "permission", he simply has to notify the tenant whenever he or his staff need to enter the premises.

However, in the case of what the OP went through, he would need to look over the contract he signed to see if the owner had the right to enter his place of residence like he did. But I still doubt what the owner did was legal.

[JulieSmithdccd]

Not true. The owner is the owner. It's his land/buildings.

He doesn't need "permission", he simply has to notify the tenant whenever he or his staff need to enter the premises.

However, in the case of what the OP went through, he would need to look over the contract he signed to see if the owner had the right to enter his place of residence like he did. But I still doubt what the owner did was legal.

The owner lives in Texas. We are in Colorado. I doubt the owner even knows we've submitted our notice. The leasing company the owner is using is who we submitted the notice to. They just seem to be invading us a month and half before our lease is actually up.

What kind of company unannounced brings in future residents to a home in which it is still being occupied by the current residents?? It's not like we're being evicted. We've never been late on rent. We've never received a complaint, and other than the place being extremely messy, there is no damage done to the property aside from normal wear and tear.

[Pcodaygs]

Does your state have a rental tribunal, or similar disputes agency?

IMO, at the very least, they would have been required to give a suitable period of notice!
As an aside, with all those strangers going through the house, has anything gone missing, it would be one of my first concerns - together with the strong possability of criminals using the oppertunity to 'case' the flat for a future break in!

This could be a VERY serious breach of your rights, security and safety!

[Olympicdreams]

Sue them.... SUE THEM ALL!!!! [cursing]

On a serious note, I'd take a look over the terms and conditions of the contract you signed. I know in my place (and when I was looking for places) tenants had to be given at least 24 hours notice through some form when there was a viewing.... usually for me it was a call saying "We will be showing people round at x time tomorrow, will you be in?" So they knew what to expect and there was no requirement to give notice in the event of "emergency maintenance" or something similar - which we discovered after coming home from Uni one day and finding that the bathroom had been resealed... was quite a head**** to find all the mould had just vanished! .

Though if you've signed something saying that they can come in without notice, while it would be pretty unusual, I don't think there's much you'd be able to do

[sleepergun]

Generally in rental contracts there is a clause that says the landlord is permitted to enter the premises for the purpose of viewings once notice has been served. It's fair enough really, they have a business to run.

Did you read the OP? No notice was given, they just turned up. How would you feel if you came home to find a bunch of strangers noseying around your place without prior warning?

[Fgunehjf]

That is not legal,they have to at least give 24 hours notice.

[VottCetaVeivE]

Not true. The owner is the owner. It's his land/buildings.

He doesn't need "permission", he simply has to notify the tenant whenever he or his staff need to enter the premises.

Incorrect. A lease agreement grants you all rights to the property you leased. So while the building may belong to someone else, while you're abiding by the lease, all rights to the apartment are yours.

The building owner has no more right to walk into your apartment than the bank representative has a right to take your leased car for a drive.

There's usually exceptions for emergencies and maintenance, but that;s it.

[medshop]

Incorrect. A lease agreement grants you all rights to the property you leased. So while the building may belong to someone else, while you're abiding by the lease, all rights to the apartment are yours.

The building owner has no more right to walk into your apartment than the bank representative has a right to take your leased car for a drive.

There's usually exceptions for emergencies and maintenance, but that;s it.

That's not right. While tenants do have a right to privacy, the landlords also have a right to show a place when they're expecting it to be vacated in the near future. In most states they have to give written notice 24 hours in advance. Of course if these people didn't have someone from the management company showing the place to them, that's a completely different matter.

[UMATURLIN]

That's not right. While tenants do have a right to privacy, the landlords also have a right to show a place when they're expecting it to be vacated in the near future. In most states they have to give written notice 24 hours in advance. Of course if these people didn't have someone from the management company showing the place to them, that's a completely different matter.

In most states the notice is simply a notice. The tenant still has to give permission for a showing. Gnius is right on this. Most landlords get away with this crap because tenants don't know their rights and allow it to happen.

[KLIMOV25gyi]

Incorrect. A lease agreement grants you all rights to the property you leased. So while the building may belong to someone else, while you're abiding by the lease, all rights to the apartment are yours.

The building owner has no more right to walk into your apartment than the bank representative has a right to take your leased car for a drive.

There's usually exceptions for emergencies and maintenance, but that;s it.

You just said I was incorrect, yet you just argued in favor of what I just said. Which is it?

I said, as long as the Owner/Landlord or his staff give due notice, they can enter the premises without permission. Yes, this includes Emergencies, Maintenance, and general inspections. This was a counterpoint to the statement that they need permission to enter, which is not true, if they have the need to enter the premises.

[UMATURLIN]

You just said I was incorrect, yet you just argued in favor of what I just said. Which is it?

As long as the Owner/Landlord or his staff give due notice, they can enter the premises without permission. Yes, this includes Emergencies, Maintenance, and general inspections. This was a counterpoint to the statement that they need permission to enter, which is not true, if they have the need to enter the premises.

Not for a showing though.